Big Red Clay Chief blows smoke up buffalo’s ass! re: Conrad Mascot

Redskins name divides Conrad community , The News Journal

The committee on Monday voted 9 to 4 – with all three alumni members and one parent voting against the measure – to recommend that the school board get rid of the name “Redskins.”

I agree to rid Conrad of the word  “Redskins”. The word is offensive to our native Americans! However, keeping the logo with the the letter C and Indian headdress is not offensive! 

 

You can bet the farm Red Clay School Board will vote to remove all images and symbols of Indians.  

If Red Clay chiefs real cared about our native Americans aka American Indians they would ban all images of Thanksgiving within their schools “and” require history teachers to tell the truth how our forefathers evicted American Indians off their own land!  Conrad sits on former Indian land.

 “Thanksgiving to the Native American Indians may not mean the same thing that it did to the white settlers in American History.  To the Indians, Thanksgiving would mean a totally different thing. This was the beginning of their end – a time where they had given up their land in return for gifts that were full of disease – which would kill many of them later down the road.”

The Red Clay administration orchestrated the committee process and rules knowing the final outcome. They’ll hide behind , “The committee’s decision”. Well, I agree with removing the Redskins reference but not the image of Indian. So now the culture exchange will begin ! Local Indians will come in and do some dancing and  sharing of language.  I call this insult to injury ! 

Board members ! Vote to keep the logo !

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26 responses to “Big Red Clay Chief blows smoke up buffalo’s ass! re: Conrad Mascot

  1. Mike Broaddus

    If the board does not have the integrity to stand up to this bullying by the US DOE, they must be replaced.

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  2. kilroysdelaware

    The board are like mice in the corner! They allowed USDOE and Jack Markell to own them re: Race to The Top, Common Core Standards and The Smarter Balance Assessment. The Conrad logo is HARMLESS ! Yet it too will go!

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    • Publius e decere

      May as well line up all names which offend anyone. Cavaliers. Warriors. Titans. Bulldogs. Tigers. Devils. And wipe all images of such names off of all walls, scoreboards, shirts, posters and newsletters. Not to mention the booster clubs. Why have traditions when we can have Wonder Bread? Oh wait, Wonder Bread offends the gluten-free police and must also be banned. And I though it made such a funny statement in Talladega Nights.

      The logo and the mascot are synonymous with Conrad. Want to change them? Then change the school name too and start fresh. Not willing? Then no guts. I mean, after all the school was built and named in 1934 which was a time of less equal opportunity than today. Why are we memorializing a leader from that time? Why are we respecting some offenses and rejecting other offenses? Keep it all or chuck it all. Or better yet let’s waste a few more months or years of board time on this.

      Not to worry, the kids are learning from this. It’s just not the lesson we intended.

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  3. lastDEconservative

    PC run amok. Next thing you know, boys will be peeing in the girl’s room. Oh, wait.

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  4. lastDEconservative

    Sittin’ in the classroom thinkin’ it’s a drag
    Listening to the teacher rap-just ain’t my bag
    When two bells ring you know it’s my cue
    Gonna meet the boys on floor number 2

    Peein’ in the girls room
    Peein’ in the girls room
    Teacher don’t you fill me up with your rules
    Everybody knows that transin’ be extolled in school

    Checkin’ out the halls makin sure they come to leer
    Lookin’ in the stalls-nah, there ain’t nobody here
    My buddies Sixx, Mick & Tom
    Playin trans is surely the funnest trick of all

    Peein’ in the girls room
    Peein’ in the girls room
    Teacher don’t you fill me up with your rules
    Everybody knows that transin’ be extolled in school
    Put me to work the school book store
    Check-out counter and I got bored
    Teacher was lookin’ for me in pants
    Two hours later you know how I was dressed

    Etc…

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    • Publius e decere

      Almost makes me crave a drag on a Marlboro, lit by a Zippo freshly primed with Ronsonol. Ah, the good old days.

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    • LDC!!! Head banger?? Hopefully you were sampling Motley’s newer version and not the old version or a new rendition, as yet to be recorded, by Soft Cell.
      http://www.stereosociety.com/torchcov.shtml
      Albeit your version would fit Soft Cell better.

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    • lastDEconservative

      Now you’ve scared me, M. What the hell is THAT?

      PS: Headbanger, no, should be obvious. Broad world curiosity, attention, and discernment, should likewise be. I guess one can be both, but that’s a bird I’ve not ever seen. 😉

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    • LDC Sorry to scare you.
      Soft Cell album cover art. Soft Cell was an 80’s (gender confused) band that re-recorded “Tainted Love” -originally recorded by Gloria Jones. They gave “Tainted Love” a whole new meaning.
      The idea of Motley Crue’s: “Sixx, Mick & Tom playin “trans”, peein in the girls room– pushed it to the smoking guy, in a dress, on the cover of the Soft Cell album.

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    • lastDEconservative

      All’s that’s left to know if how in the name of Kilroy you (anyone) would know all that! Enjoying this. Love knowing odd things folks know.

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  5. Brenda Parrish Saulsbury

    Just makes me so sad. Conrad will not be “my school” anymore. I agree, if the board wants to remove all our logos, names and traditions, why not just go ahead and rename the school. Conrad High will never die, in my heart.

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  6. Contradict much? “Conrad will not be my school” followed by “Conrad will never die in my heart” damn I thought you moved on.
    I typically hate PC agendas…this one happens to be justified…. No other group outside of notre dame (a private school) gets identified like this….Many American citizens who pay taxes have a legitimate concern that their tax dollars support a school that stands by a derogatory name. My suggestion to the alum…. Start identifying with your college nickname……I will leave it at that.

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  7. I wonder when the Conrad alumni are going to recognize, like the rest of us have, that Conrad is no longer the same school they attended; one that is open to all of the residents of Newport, Boxwood Road, Five Points, Elsmere etc…instead of one where you have to fill out an application – one where you essentially have to be an honors (see test scores) student to attend. In reality friends, your school stopped being your school a long long time ago. Let it go. It’s long long gone.

    Now you can tear a building down,
    But you can’t erase a memory.

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  8. They won’t…it’s their terminal school, it’s their neighborhood school and they would like to hold on: ” glory days, they’ll pass you by glory days….” They were a poster child victim of the travesty of deseg…. Their school was sacrificed … I don’t blame them a bit… But the redskin is a silly thing to hold on to…. They were pawns

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  9. Pencadermom

    You’re fooling yourself if you think these schools are just looking for high test scores. They are looking for decent test scores combined with kids who don’t act like animals… kids who went to a middle school that can enforce discipline rules. Tell a high school that your kid went to Newark Charter middle school.. they’re in!
    Break, I don’t think she contradicted herself really. I think she meant it won’t be her school anymore, because of all the changes, but what it was will always live on in her heart.. you knew what she meant but still had to go there? Whether it should be changed or not, you have no empathy for someone feeling sentimental? Disclosure, I edited my post. I called you an ass, and then I saw you quote the boss 😀

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  10. You can go ahead and call me an ass again. Quoting Bruce is all that it takes to get a pass? You better re-load, because that’s Living Color, not Bruce Springsteen. 🙂

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  11. Publius e decere

    One eponymous history of the word “redskins” to consider:
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2013/12/18/redskins_the_debate_over_the_washington_football_team_s_name_incorrectly.html

    One iconic separate-but-equal history to consider:
    https://thismorningishistory.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/1908-henry-c-conrad-citizen-and-historian/

    So, given these non-revisionist histories should the school be rid of the name Conrad or the mascot Redskin? Just throwing it on the kitchen table for comments.

    Publius

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  12. Re: their school….many of us went to schools that were closed due to deseg. We got over it. Our best days are not behind us.

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  13. snewton929

    @Publius–Goddard’s work (we could quibble over whether his work is revisionist or not, but I won’t) is important and needs to be considered. However, having actually read it, and read some of the responses to in the academic world (instead of just having read the post), I find it less than compelling.

    There are a couple of reasons for this: (1) in most of the references to Indians themselves using the term “redskin” Goddard quotes translations or recounting them, and other historians note that when Indians are reported or “translated” to have used the term “redskin” most of the time they actually used the term “red man.” Moreover, Indian historians are pretty much agreed that when Indians used the term “white skins” it was intended to be derogatory most of the time.

    (2) The origin of a word does not reflect what it becomes. For example, were the Conrad mascot the “coon” instead of the “redskin” nobody would doubt it was a racial slut. Yet the etymology of “coon” is also benign, coming from the Spanish “barracoon,” which was a barracks in the Caribbean where newly arrived slaves from the Middle Passage were nursed back to health and fattened up for sale. Originally, to say a slave had been “cooned” or was a “coon” had no racial or negative overtones–it merely meant that he or she had been through a physical rehab process prior to sale and was a guarantee of relatively good health. Obviously, the meaning and the nature of the term as a slur changed over the decades. Words change meanings.

    It is right to celebrate Henry Conrad, especially as a pioneer in African-American education–but throughout the 1950s and even into the early 1960s children of the Lenape and Nanticoke tribes who wanted a high school education could only attend two high schools in Delaware, and had to be classified as “negroes” to do that. When Conrad graduates of the 1960s and 1970s celebrate their “tribute” to Native Americans, let’s remember that at roughly the same period Indians would not have been allowed to sit in the classroom beside them. Some tribute.

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  14. kilroysdelaware

    I think we all agree “redskins” is offensive. I’ll support the board if they vote in favor or eliminating “redskins” for any reference to Conrad. However, Voting to eliminate Conrad school’s logo would be nothing more than political. As far as mascot !!!! Does Conrad even have one?

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    • Publius e decere

      Sorry there Kilroy, don’t think you can divide the baby. As Steve Newton says, words change meanings. Redskins was perfectly acceptable to prior generations but is increasingly not now. Icons of education who helped African Americans in separate facilities were blessed by Plessey but ultimately decided to be wrong. And the logo is every bit as much Redskin as is the name.

      I can’t understand why the board lets this drag on, I can’t understand why the board leader is putting it off to an arranged committee to decide. If it is a matter of principle and if such principles define the district then I think the board should put it to rest at the next board meeting and be done. Will some people get mad? Sure. Will some people ridicule the decision as PC? Sure. So what. What is worse is watching the situation go on for months even years without any courage of conviction, one way or the other, by the board.

      Fish or cut bait. On the entire lot — the mascot, the logo, the Conrad name. Agree?

      Publius

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    • lastDEconservative

      “I can’t understand why the board lets this drag on, I can’t understand why the board leader is putting it off to an arranged committee to decide. If it is a matter of principle and if such principles define the district then I think the board should put it to rest at the next board meeting and be done.”

      Publius woke up in the 1950s again, in the days of adults being in positions of responsibility, not as a burden or used as a plea for sympathy, but because, well, because that’s how it works — sorry, how it used to work.

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  15. “Local Indians will come in and do some dancing and sharing of language.”

    Oh, so they can come dance for you? Nice micro aggression, bro! Your privilege is sickening. BTW, before making the blanket statement that Redskins is offensive, do some research. There are several grass root campaigns to defend these honorariums. NAGA is one, check them out before spreading such ignorant propaganda.

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    • kilroysdelaware

      The point is, this how Red Clay will start the road to embrace the culture bond! But the relationship will fade because of Red Clay. The are going through the motion gaining support from local tribes and when all cools of with the alumni. The relation will be no more!

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  16. Kilroy that is a weak stand… The emblem is emblematic of the name…. It I would be a concession to a group that has been unreasonable and quite frankly wrong.

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  17. Theresa Giuliani Satterfield

    Love this article!!

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