Wilmington crime problems are a direct result of poor parenting

Blame 5-0 all you want! But poor parenting = poor behavior = criminals = murder

Blame teachers all you want! But poor parenting = unprepared students= disruptive behavior = criminals = murder

Moving Christina’s city schools to Red Clay’s governance does nothing to address poor parenting = same old same old = unprepared students = poor parenting = equals = criminals = murder

 

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36 responses to “Wilmington crime problems are a direct result of poor parenting

  1. Well said and right on point. But let’s take the rational one step further. What foments the anti-social actions on the part of some groups. The answer, welfare. Or more specifically, something for nothing. Just keep having three paycheck babies by five guys with no consequences – except more welfare. Where is the desire or need to assimilate into the American main stream culture? As to the costs. All of the socialization programs that will be put into the schools will not come out of the State General Fund. It will come out of our home equity from property taxes as these costs are cost shifted. Take a good hard look at your districts budget and see just how much non education expenses are there that should be paid by another agency.

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    • lastDEconservative

      And welfare is begat by … ? Socialists/progressives/liberals in or aspiring to elected office. (Or their enablers, like my friend below, messaging us from the alternate universe).

      Next!

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  2. Obviously Will Mann knows nothing about Welfare… Here is the site... Look up how much work you have to do to get Welfare and how little it actually pays.. You are living in myth world….. You might as wellquote Game of Thrones….

    That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments this blog has ever seen, and I know, there have been quite a few of those posted by Publius, LastDEconservative, and Pencader Mom… just to name three. 🙂 who live in bubbles of plasticine…

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  3. I love this crap.

    Just keep having three paycheck babies by five guys with no consequences – except more welfare. Wilmington’s teen birth rate (24.7/1,000) is below the national average. Percentage of single-family households in DE is 59%, BUT … only 28% in poverty. Teen birth rates in Delaware have been declining since the mid-1990s.

    Where is the desire or need to assimilate into the American main stream culture? Well, let’s see … that would take jobs. Unemployment in all of Wilmington sits at 5.2%, but there are variables and variables. In center-city areas unemployment hits as high as 22% in some areas. This neatly matches the poverty rate for Wilmington of 23.9%.

    As for the idea that Wilmington’s citizens are somehow outrageous consumers of government services, try this on for size: remember first that Wilmington has only about 8% of Delaware’s population. In all of Delaware roughly 25% of the population is either on Medicaid or SNAP or both. The large majority of individuals on Medicaid or SNAP in this state do not live in Wilmington; rates for both are much higher outside of New Castle County than in it.

    But, hey, don’t let facts or statistics interfere with your argument.

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  4. What is the percent on Medicaid and/or SNAP in Wilmington?

    Last year I believe 19 of Red Clay’s 23 schools were eligible for Title I, so funding schools based on the need cannot be limited to schools in the city.

    Delinquent property owners school taxes in our state increased from $6.2 million in 2008 to over $30 million in 2014, this problem is only going to get worse with the merger DOW/DuPont merger.

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  5. Jack, finding out the specific numbers for those in Wilmington defeated a quick search, but even if it is double the state average, the relative size of the city compared to the state doesn’t change the main point.

    Moreover, as I am sure you are aware, DOE last year changed the definition of low SES to artificially reduce poverty numbers in our schools.

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  6. lastDEconservative

    ” … this problem is only going to get worse with the merger DOW/DuPont merger.”

    Uh, oh. Somebody said it “out loud.” Anybody who doesn’t believe or realize that the state government has been asleep at the wheel for two or three lifetimes is about to get a rude awakening. The logic (ha, logic!) would go something like this … if we lose the bet on [ insert Bloom, FIsker, etc.], so what? We’ve ALWAYS got DuPont. Just watch snewton186’s stats blow up when all the low and medium paying jobs supporting the bugged out executives disappear. And when the downsized executives and midrange DuPont employees join the aforementioned lot and stop making and start taking. Put that in your DEFAC pipe and smoke it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see ANOTHER line item added to our electric bills to keep the lights on in Dover.

    PS to snewton186: Excerpting pointless and narrow statistical justifications for the refutation of points unrelated to the broad truth Mr. Mann expressed is really a poor showing. Why not address your wisdom to his most excellent query, “Where is the desire or need to assimilate into the American main stream culture?” I’ll start. There is no desire, in part because there’s no need. This lot has been excused, coddled, and redistributed to for generations. Desire? Need? Well done, Will, well done.

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  7. the broad truth Mr. Mann expressed?

    Or the bald assertion he made that is backed only by personal belief and supported by … no evidence.

    I can see why you’d like to downplay narrow statistical justifications, because when you’ve got no evidence for a dogwhistle position, you have to, you know, discredit the idea that evidence might trump (pun intended) prejudice.

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    • lastDEconservative

      I’ll stick with the “evidence” that is evident to anyone who will open their eyes and discern “what’s really going on.” You can fiddle around with statistics to justify, rationalize and glorify the results of bad behavior on the part of the elected for decades. Enjoy! And that’s TRUMP! to you, sir.

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  8. Delinquent school taxes also skyrocketed because the state cut transportation funding by 10% and since 2010 cut $26 million that impacted only on our schools, while increasing funding to DDOE and continuing to fund district level operations.
    To fund our schools the WEIC Funding Success Committee did not recommend any savings nor any reallocation of funding. They recommended reassessment and denying the residents the right to vote to increase the tax rate.
    Very troubling that $2.4 billion is expended annually for the education of our children, yet this committee cannot identify any savings or identify any funding that can be used more effectively. I note this committee had 16 members but only 1 parent and no school level employees.

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  9. LeastinterestedintruthDelawareConservative: I’ll stick with the “evidence” that is evident to anyone who will open their eyes and discern “what’s really going on.”

    Proudly bearing the flag of Delaware’s Know-Nothing Party.

    Or–“my beliefs–no matter how wrong–are not subject to verification. They just have to be made into public policy.”

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    • Steve if the ” truth” of redistribution you don’t see isn’t really there, why or how is it that 50-60% of our state student population is enrolled/ eligible for FRL?

      Look it up its there and our NCC districts have been dealing with the social dysfunction for years. The WEIC will find that the root problem they have is finding other peoples money to fund their efforts to reform social dysfunction so typical of our metropolitan areas.

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  10. Publius e decere

    OK – back to the 5-0 “not” laid out by Kilroy. And the teachers Kilroy also “didn’t” lay out. He dalso idn’t lay out poverty or welfare.

    Kilroy’s point was simple: Does the “WEIC” proposal — to move Christina to Red Clay — cause an improvement in education outcomes? Or does it not?

    Publius restates Kilroy: What does Christina’s downtown district need to succeed? If that success is supposed to be delivered by redistricting, is that because Christina can not deliver it? Why is Red Clay able to deliver it better than Christina?

    Publius asks her own questions:
    1. Why not force Christina to do what needs to be done?
    2. Why should we redistrict without ENSURING that Red Clay — vs Christina — is kept whole?
    3. Why should we believe that Red Clay board members who vote for redistricting — without ensuring a multi-year assurance of cost-neutrality for its tax payers — are sincere or even serving the public interest?
    4. Christina knows darned well that it will make out with millions per year of benefit if the downtown district shifts over to Red Clay — so call it out and capture it in the fairness principle of this WEIC effort.
    5. If Christina can’t offer Red Clay an assurance of cost parity ..then Christina is the problem. CHRISTINA has presided over these issues for years. THEY must keep the receiving parties whole.

    Publius the Egalitarian

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  11. M Ryder sorry somehow I couldn’t leave this under your response.

    First off, I’d love to see a citation for 50-60% of our population on Free/Reduced Lunch. But let’s assume you are correct. Wilmington contains only about 8% of Delaware’s population, and fewer than 19,000 school age children (stat runs 0-19; the 6-18 stat is therefore probably about 13,000).

    That means the the overwhelming majority of kids receiving FRL are not in Wilmington–they are spread throughout the state. In point of fact a higher percentage of kids get FRL in Sussex than in NCC. They’re poor, white, and rural, those kids receiving FRL–you know, the ones that are listed above as neither desiring nor needing to assimilate into the mainstream of America.

    Redistribution? Give me a break. Our government–both Federal and State–hands out industrial and commercial subsidies by the millions and billions. About $35 million per year is redistributed from our electric bills direct to Bloom Energy for the jobs they never created. Or to Fisker, or to Wal-Mart in Smyrna, or to Astra-Zeneca. The state hands Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield a $175 million bribe to accept a monopoly on private insurance in the state, gives them record-breaking rate increases, then hands over the keys to Medicaid … and you’re worried about Free and Reduced Lunch for school kids as “redistribution”? God forbid the government should use our tax money to feed children instead of subsidizing corporations.

    What I see is kilroy making the mistake of feeding the animals by buying into the white urban myth that minorities are shiftless, lazy, and poor parents, and that this all somehow got this way because “those people” (in the only African-American majority portion of the state) have been sitting on their asses enjoying steak and champagne from the hard-working middle class that can’t stand for their kids to be in the same schools.

    Whatever happened to the America where we actually tried to take care of our less fortunate brothers and sisters (either directly, or through churches, or even through government assistance) and left us in this squalid moral condition in which supposed “people” like LastDelawareConfederate or PubliusSanctimonious or even you have suddenly become so scared of other Americans that you have to demonize them? Being afraid of Syrian immigrants I can possibly understand, but this … ?

    This one’s our mess, we made over the past several decades, and now you all pretty much seem to want to build a goddamn wall around the city and hire Kurt Russell to play it one more time in “Escape from Wilmington.”

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    • lastDEconservative

      By the way, snewton186, the only outrage and demonization of minorities or kids or parents evident on this page is under your nom de plume (excepting our illustrious provocateur host). I say this because to some particularly weak minded (half asleep still) readers might not quite see the fallacy of your blusterous attempts to smoke screen your rampant illogic, even in the glare of the brilliance of, say, M’s rejoinder. Even you, professor of something, can’t see (won’t acknowledge) that proper “outrage” is aimed squarely at the proper target — the elected and all their sycophants, supporters and rent seekers.

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    • http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/Line/571-free-and-reduced-price-lunches?loc=9&loct=5#5/1847-1849/false/1250,1069,952,824,750/asc/545/9704

      You’ll get no argument about Bloom from me, but I also don’t vote like all those blue state supporters, THEY OWN the results. I’d much rather see that money in the schools but not at the hands of the blue state enablers who have never met a tax they didn’t like.

      It isn’t a white vs. black myth that is causing our major problems. It’s the dysfunctional vs. the functional that is burdening the system and that crosses all racial lines. It just so happens a metropolitan area puts a high percentage of that in a smaller place. NCC has the same number of FRL as enrollees as Kent and Sussex combined.

      “We” didn’t make this mess. Progressives and Liberals along with voters who believe them, made the mess of a government that can solve your problems and pay your mortgage or car payments. “Hope and Change” promised to “Take Care” of everyone and redistribute the wealth instead demand a higher level of engagement and responsibility.

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  12. Why bother with facts when your fears will suffice. If “redistribution” was really the concern (it’s not) then MRyder would be having a fit over Sussex County, or the fact that “we the people” subsidize Walmart – who doesn’t pay its employees enough, many of which qualify for government assistance despite having a job.

    Redistribution isn’t these guys’ concern. If it was then they’d be calling out all the things Steve mentioned, but they aren’t. There’s a theme to their outrage and it’s really ugly.

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    • lastDEconservative

      snewton186 and pandemonium in league once again! Great to have you both back!

      Common sense arguments made by the likes of M and Pub and your humble correspondent are so much better advanced in the light of ignorant knee jerk commentaries such as yours. Thanks for advancing the cause! Merry ______mas to you both!

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    • lastDEconservative

      The Walmart argument again. From pandora, who believes in the humans as right minded, well intentioned, and eager, foiled by the likes of the makers (who created jobs even they could do) from advancing from the bus to a Mercedes. B.S.

      Qualify for govt assistance even though they have a job. Who set the assistance bar? pandora, writ large. Who crippled the Wally World employee with a half ass govt schooling (not education)? pandora, writ large. Whose policies created millions of consumers who can only get by because Walmart is expert at low price selling? pandora, writ large. Who removed incentives to earning more, bettering oneself, advancing in life in lieu of free subsidies? pandora, writ large.

      Thanks for stopping by, pan. Missed you.

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  13. When we discuss funding our schools based on the needs of the children, why didn’t WEIC start with how we are funding our schools now? It would be interesting to see Red Clay’s allocation per student broken down by current and tuition local, state and federal for each school.

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  14. Yeah, I’m probably not back to stay. We use to have actual policy discussions on here, but those days are gone. Which is a shame.

    You, MRyder, Publius, etc. do a lot of finger pointing, but don’t offer any solutions. Fine, but that’s not a discussion. It’s an ideology. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but constantly pointing that out doesn’t solve anything. Do you guys even want to solve the problem, or just claim you’re right? (About what and to what end, I have no idea.)

    Let’s look at Kilroy’s post – Poor parenting is the cause of the city’s crime problem (I guess it’s the cause of the education problem, too.). Okay, if you agree with that premise… offer a solution. Keep in mind that whatever solution you offer will apply to all parents, not just the ones certain people want. Everyone okay with their parenting being placed under the microscope? This would have to be legislated, no? If not, then how is it solved?

    I’m not on the front lines of this fight anymore. Our nest is empty. Both of our public school educated children are at university (yeah, we did a few years at private school). And I get that maneuvering the education system is scary. Truth is, no one on here with K-12 kids knows what the future holds for their child. I understand the comfort in thinking you’re making the right decisions, but you won’t know, can’t know, until college acceptance letters arrive – and even then you worry. Quite a few parents are in for a rude awakening. And that won’t be their fault, but it is reality.

    My advice would be to stop punching downward. Some of the loudest voices on here have more in common with those they call out then they realize. Fear is why they lash out and why they use any excuse to distance themselves. They may be “above” those they sneer at, but not by much. Hence, their fear and vitriol. People secure in their choices and decisions don’t need to put down those struggling “below” them. They’re looking up.

    If you’re not looking up, and constantly worried that someone you consider “beneath” you is getting something you’re not, that’s your insecurity – and you probably should be worried.

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    • Publius e decere

      Pandora,

      I usually just point a finger at Christina. Certain persons only. For sport, mainly. The way they react is too rewarding. Dem-Trumps. It’s like Whack-A-Mole. Or like Kwack- … (Fill in blank)

      As for parenting, Kilroy presents a red herring. No one is going to monitor parenting. He knows it darned well, but he is nevertheless thumping the drum and he is smiling watching the reaction. He is an instigator at the kitchen table. Which is why we all come here to comment.

      The “parenting” point is that there is very little parenting going on in some cases. When I hear Skyline parents appalled about kids “F-Ing” off teachers and staff and peers openly and brazenly I wonder why anyone excuses it. Punching and fighting on a daily basis ( a Christina specialty ) — I wonder why anyone excuses it. Students bringing all manner of illegal or dangerous things into schools — I wonder why anyone excuses it.

      It isn’t about poverty. This is about basic decency. Most everyone I know is willing to provide a hand up. The basic rules are no-cussing, no-punching, no-guns, and no-drugs. Let students use the lavatory without feeling “at risk”. Let students laugh without worrying about being held accountable for “disrespect” at the end of a blade or a barrel.

      Is this so hard, really? Is this too much to ask, really? If “parenting” can’t establish these basic Marquess of Queensbury Rules, then maybe some old-school social services are needed to declare some parenting situations unfit. And then act on it. Tough love.

      Publius

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    • lastDEconservative

      Thanks for hanging around for one more cycle, pan. I had forgotten how much I miss your demands that my posts be to your specifications (among other entertaining moments)! Really. Hardly a paragraph of yours or collection thereof better exemplifies the progressive (read destroyer) mindset than the terse demand that I (or this one or that one) speak only to your interests and in a way that suits you. Merry _____mas!

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    • lastDEconservative

      ” Most everyone I know is willing to provide a hand up.”
      – Pub

      Probably most everyone YOU know DOES provide a hand up, in ways unobserved, unpublished, without prompting, and certainly not promoted. I’m happy to say that most everyone I know just
      that .all.the.time. out of their own resources (earnings), not out of someone else’s pocket as is the desire if not the practice of the lot who rail against the makers .all.the.time.

      But look who WE know, right?

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    • Offering solutions that will be effective are routinely denigrated to insults and accusations of racism, elitism, or some other politically motivated agenda. What YOU want to hear are solutions palatable to YOU and then have it funded by everyone else.

      Name one solution of your own that DOESN’T require confiscating the resources of one group and granting them to another. Weighted funding- No. Tax Re-assessment- no. State funding increases to Wilmington- no. Social services improvements/ staff paid for by the rest of the state- no.

      Just one solution, which will of course be denounced as draconian and violation of reproductive rights, is if an individual becomes pregnant and is on public assistance, they should be immediately enrolled in mandatory state administered birth control for 5 years or until they have secured their own qualified means to care for their current child. The man responsible, if not together with the woman, should have to be identified and a means to track his whereabouts for child support. He too should be nullified as a sperm donor to anyone else until such time he establishes himself as self sufficient AND provider of assistance to the child. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it

      This simple solution would dramatically stem the rampant problem of children having children (unwed mothers on assistance)(of all races and counties) and society being held responsible for the financial obligations of the irresponsible (all races). Getting a hold of irresponsible adults is but just the beginning of breaking the problem that enablers have allowed via their good hearted nature. This would reduce the state burden, reduce the school burden, reduce the taxpayer burden, and deal a blow to the cycle that enablers (who just want everyone else to fix it) created.

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  15. “This one’s our mess, we made over the past several decades, and now you all pretty much seem to want to build a goddamn wall around the city..”

    how is it my mess? When i worked in the city i paid city wage tax, i paid for parking, i frequented the businesses there, etc. how is it my mess?

    And i never advocated for a wall around the city i suggest razing it and building a theme park

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    • i never advocated for a wall around the city i suggest razing it and building a theme park I think a new movie with Kurt Russell (who’s still got it) would be better.

      Meanwhile, I got it. Nobody here has any responsibility because they didn’t vote and did pay their taxes. Actual reality testing via evidence doesn’t matter. Got it. Solutions? Demand that people parent better. Got it.

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    • “i suggest razing it and building a theme park”
      Already done. Have you been down to the Riverfront lately?

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    • so steve what else should I be doing besides what i am already doing – taking care of my family, providing the required taxes as an individual, a business owner, an employer, a resident and a land owner? plus the time spent volunteering as a family (habitat for humanity, food bank, sunday breakfast mission) and a 10% income charity donation each year? what is it you do that is directly affecting those who arent fit to be parents yet are, over and over again? what is it specifically we as a collective should be doing?

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    • lastDEconservative

      Well, first Art, provide “evidence” of your claims if you seek favor from snewton186. Then, of course, offer your humblest apologies and hang your head in shame for being as successful as you are in the face of all those failed souls in the wake of snewton186’s utopian quest. Maybe then snewton186 will deign a reply.

      Good post, by the way. Really. Thanks.

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  16. And with respect to free and reduced lunches, remember there are entire schools who receive federally funded free lunches because a large portion of the students qualify. The entire school, even if their parents earn…well, let’s just say a lot more than the cutoff (they do not qualify)…the entire school receives free breakfast and lunch. Must be nice to own a mint. Delaware could use one of those.

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  17. “Poor parenting” – Kilroy speaks truth and doesn’t even know it.

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  18. Our food service expenditures in 2008 were $50,944,125, by 2014 the cost was $121,575,909. During the same period Red Clay’s expenditures increased from $1,500,711 to $8,513,018.
    I find these facts alarming.

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  19. Nobody is suggesting building a wall. In fact, I would suggest otherwise. Dissolve the city boundaries and incorporate the entire city into the county as one government. It’s ridiculous that those in the suburbs are burdened with higher taxes to offset the lower tax base in the city in order to pay for the education of city residents’ children, when the city residents continuously elect a government that is incapable of doing anything to help turn around the city and create a better environment for its resident to live, work, learn etc…. It’s taxation without representation, really. And the city government knows it. Forget about building up a wall. Tear down the wall that exists. Dissolve the mayor’s office. Dissolve the city council’s office. One county. One government. One school district.

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