Come on Jimmy Olsen! Is about discipline or race?

A new approach to disciplining, punishing kids  Matthew Albright and Jessica Masulli Reyes, The News Journal

If Delaware wants to address disparities in its criminal justice system, it must reform the way it disciplines and punishes kids, advocates for youth and schools say.

Harsh punishments like out-of-school suspensions, expulsions and arrests should be used only when absolutely necessary, they argue. For lesser offenses, the education and justice systems should instead try to support troubled youth and teach better behavior.

So let me see !!!!!! Currently students are being arrested for chewing gum in class! Being expelled for going to the bathroom without permission. Out school suspension for farting in class! WTF! They are being suspended because they are disruptive ! 

The time is long overdue for putting “trained and “qualified” crisis interventionist in our public schools.  Asking teaches to be social worker and crisis interventionist is insane! As far as “better behavior” what about parents?  

Kids fall behind academically when they miss class, which increases the chances that they will drop out. When a student isn’t in school, he or she is more likely to be “on the street” and exposed to criminal activity.

And what about the students trying to do their work in class while the disruptive behavior is taking place? 

Sixty-four percent of students who received such suspensions were black, even though only 32 percent of students statewide are black, the group found.

So this article is about race not behavior in general ! I think we need to stop and focus in on why black students are being suspended at a higher rate than their white people! Do we have racist teachers in the system? Racist principals?

The Christina School District has been overhauling its school discipline policies since the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights found in 2012 that its schools were more heavily disciplining black students than white students.

And Christina has been working on that issue and making progress.  

In August and September of this school year, the district handed out 360 suspensions, down 455 from the same period last year.

“We’re working on it every month,” Racca said. “It’s not just a matter of rewriting some documents, it’s a matter of changing culture

And its working! So why is the News Journal blowing the siren like there is a crisis not being addressed? 

Attorney General Matt Denn wants to see changes made to the state’s justice system.

One proposal would remove the requirement that schools automatically report any misdemeanor assaults that take place on campus. Parents or school personnel could still choose to file charges, but they would not be bound to do so.

“We’re dealing with adolescents here,” Denn said. “We think responsible adults should have some discretion.”

So look the other way when a crime is committed and leave it up to the parent to press charges! Whatever happen to snitches get stitches? Sorry folks, when a “crime” is committed in school the school has an obligation.  

Denn also wants to expand the number and type of offenses that minors could have expunged from their criminal records.

Their juvenile records are sealed once they turn 18 years old. Perhaps all misdemeanor should be expunded for all citizens after they are convicted and complete sentencing after 5-7 years. Non violent felonies after 10! It seems we have a problem in this country in the criminal justice system that is in dire need of change. Allow crimes in public schools go unchecked isn’t the answer!    

This year, the state started a juvenile civil citation initiative. It allows youth busted for first-time, low-level misdemeanors to get citations that don’t put them into the juvenile criminal justice system.

Civil citations can be issued for one of six violations: disorderly conduct, shoplifting, criminal trespassing, loitering and possession of less than an ounce of marijuana

We’ll that’s a great start. Kind of like a first offenders program! But allowing schools to sweep bullying under the carpet isn’t going to address any problems.

“Research has shown that youth who come into the system have a higher rate of recidivism,” said Donna Pugh, the initiative’s coordinator. “If we keep them out of the system in the first place, we can prevent them from coming back.”

So looking the other way is the answers ? Look, it all comes down to this, $$$. Schools cannot keep dipping into the academic or transportation local budget to pay for things the state should be paying. Crime is not an education problem to solve! Yes school can help! But, services must come from the state as well as funding. 

This approach will free up time for police officers and lift some burden off the courts, Pugh noted. Based on data from previous years, the initiative has the potential to eliminate criminal charges against minors in 11 to 18 percent of all the state’s cases, she said.

Lets decriminalize possession of marijuana for possession of one ounce and under. Damn sell it and tax it $10.00 a pack and use that money to fight crime.

New Castle County Jea Street has been pushing for changes to school discipline for decades. He says he’s optimistic that positive change could happen, but says he’s been let down too many times not to be wary.

“Systemically we have failed children. The purpose of discipline should be to change and modify behavior,” Street said. “Suspensions don’t do that and putting a kid at age seven or eight into the criminal justice system doesn’t do that. It has to change.”

And that will take a state fully funded crisis interventionist program not some EPR program! Not some community base group pushing tough love! We need real trained and certified crisis interventionists who should have the authority to restrain a student  when necessary. 


8 responses to “Come on Jimmy Olsen! Is about discipline or race?

  1. Kilroy: “So look the other way when a crime is committed and leave it up to the parent to press charges! Whatever happen to snitches get stitches? Sorry folks, when a “crime” is committed in school the school has an obligation.”

    Don’t tell that to CSD. How do you think the racial disparities are “leveling off” there? Suppression of punishing student indiscretions? Even when Police in the schools KNOW who commits the criminal indiscretions, the district is doing what it can to deflect its “obligation” to avoid the racial implications. And don’t play coy Kilroy, you have the connections to know it is already being done. Jea Street threw the hammer down on a district incapable of fighting back and CSD has had 3 supers who were quite willing to go along with Jea.

    Kilroy:”Crime is not an education problem to solve!”
    So why do you claim white parents, or any parents for that matter, are racists by seeking alternative schools to the TPS’s due to criminal and behavioral problems?

    Kilroy: “The time is long overdue for putting “trained and “qualified” crisis interventionist in our public schools.”
    What magic fairy dust do “interventionists” have, that would guide a juvenile delinquent away from mugging a fellow student? What “behavior modifier” will actually get a tough 13 year to NOT tell his teacher to FO if he/ she is so inclined to do so? What “crisis” precipitated a student’s willingness to bully or hit a fellow student? His mom hit him in the morning so he hits his classmate later in the day? A student with behavioral issues of these types is a danger to teachers and students alike. They should not be allowed to adversely affect the education of others. What happens to them should be a social services issue, removed from normal students until such time that it can be proven they can coexist without disrupting education. If you consider this state responsibility, I agree, but you will not get a satisfactory result IN the school.

    Kilroy: “I think we need to stop and focus in on why black students are being suspended at a higher rate than their white people! Do we have racist teachers in the system? Racist principals?”
    Do you believe that is what we have? I don’t think that’s the case. We have cultural issues that certain demographics want special consideration for behavior issues. Different rules for different people. It couldn’t be that black students commit more of the suspend-able offenses, could it? It must be latent racism right? Wilmington’s traffic light camera violations fall predominantly on certain demographics, but that must mean the traffic light cameras are racist.


  2. lastDEconservative

    Hey Kilroy, are you gonna publish Publius Marcus’s column in today’s Not News Journal for the denizens to scratch themselves about? It’s great, save for the usual liberal handwringing method of presenting itself. Hundreds of millions of liberal do-good dollars squandered, lost, evaporated into the leviathan; a single ray of hope being charter schools for which parents are clamoring and competing for admission tickets … put it up, pllleeeeaaaassssseeeee.


    • Publius e decere

      Setting aside LDC’s conflation of Publius Delawarius with Publius Marcus ….

      No surprise that charter schools were the ray of hope. But wow-ya for $200million ($100 plus match) there should have been more.

      In Delaware, give half that amount — $100 million including the match — to the handful of current proven high performing charters, along with an unlimited enrollment right, and look out five years at the transformation. Successful charters in Delaware are held back by enrollment caps and lack of public construction funds. Remedy both constraints and we would have transformational change. Even the traditional district would win .. they could sell their surplus buildings to monetize their gross underutilization.



  3. LDC,
    Ruthy’s expose doesn’t fit the Delawareway narrative that unlimited money to our TPS would solve all the problems. It doesn’t fit the narrative that charters suck. It doesn’t fit the narrative that there is no waste in our districts. It doesn’t fit the narrative that teachers unions offer a beneficial service to taxpayers (who are in fact the employers).

    Given all that doesn’t fit but in fact contradicts, many of the Delawareway narratives. What possible benefit is there in discussing its content?

    I was seriously interested in kilroy’s comments on the original article but it appears I am to selfish stupid and elitist to warrant responses. That’s a shame. Either I’m so far “off” the mark or so “on” the mark that there isn’t much reason to comment further.


    • lastDEconservative

      Of course I was poking the leader of the denizens and the denizens as a whole in the ribs with with my sarcasm stick. Under the heading that a stopped watch is right twice a day, every once in a long while ol’ kilroy will throw we selfish, stupid, elitist mongrels a bone to chew that is of a palatable flavor. Couldn’t hurt to ask … who knows, maybe one or three of the denizens actually went and read the thing, so you and I can take comfort in knowing they got a twinge of a headache by doing so! Plus, as one of the SSE, I never tire of seeing this lot “make” the case that all those legions of parents clamoring, I think was Marcus’s word, to get into a charter school (or is it out of a TPS?) are just plain stupid and must be forced into submission to the TPS leviathan at the hand of their wiser selves.


    • Sarcasm was noted.
      “Couldn’t hurt to ask …”
      -Ruthie’s article
      -Camden schools- Unlimited money vs. horses lead to water unwilling to drink / staff unwilling to buy in / schools unwilling to audit the finances or become efficient.
      -Delaware referendum..eering. More money/ no improvement. To advertise or not advertise/ Offer pizza parties or engage the cloaking devices. Depends on if they want residents to vote or just listen to the lullaby and not pay attention.
      -To uphold student behavior guidelines or not uphold guidelines… depends on the demographic, school, threatened lawsuit, or the AG’s agenda.

      Lots of bones to chew on.
      I should just say it’s Bush’s fault and then the “denizens” would agree.


  4. MRyder – If the narrative were true then all the boys at the Ferris School should be straight A students.