Jaques calls for high school in Wilmington Delaware

Lawmaker: Wilmington needs a high school Jon Offredo, The News Journal

A new high school in Wilmington? One state lawmaker is telling capital budget writers to bank on it.

Rep. Earl Jaques, a Glasgow Democrat and chair of the House Education Committee, told Bond Bill lawmakers Monday morning that as long there are studies on the future of education in the state’s largest city, financial planning for a new high school has to begin sooner rather than later.

“It’s time to resurrect Wilmington High School, the Red Devils,” Jaques said. “Those children deserve it, their parents deserve it and we need it to move forward in that area.”

I mean gee ! It would be nice for Wilmington public school students to have a neighborhood school promised under the Neighborhood Schools Act.  Now which school district will this new high school be located in?

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41 responses to “Jaques calls for high school in Wilmington Delaware

  1. Take over the mega charter building… Use eminent domain… (there was no value attached when given freely to Longwood Foundation)… Run it as Wilmington High School.

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  2. Maybe CSW can hustle up some dollars, find some land and build themselves a school and vacate Wilmington High School…..wouldn’t that work?

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    • Publius e decere

      Wouldn’t that cause even lower occupancy of the other high schools like McKean and Dickinson? Both of which are already far below average in occupany. A further move out (i.e., back to a more-local city school) would leave those campuses nearly unviable. Districts who sit on empty (aka high-vacancy) buildings and campuses are roundly rejected by the voters. Christina’s sorry ownership of the Astro Power factory for more than a decade is Exhibit One. The voters said “why ask us for $10-million, just sell the Elephant for $10-million and get your — no wait, “our” — money that way”.

      Your comment suggests that you don’t understand public school financing, charter school fundraising, and public expectations. Suggests.

      Publius

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    • Publius, the white elephant isn’t worth 10 milliion. I agree, sell it. I’ll even take the loss. Local valuations put it at 6 mil. So drop the price to 4 mil and sell it lock, stock and barrel as is!

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    • Publius e decere

      Elizabeth: Got to agree. Sell it for today’s intrinsic value no matter what it is, and then move on. At today’s interest rates historically low, there is no better time. CSD just need to own up to the decision and cut bait. Publius

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  3. Of course – where else are they going to dump all the city kids the charters don’t want? Sure, build the new high school, but impose a moratorium on new charters until the new school opens.

    Wilmington already has two high schools in the Wilmington High school building. If they aren’t serving city kids, that’s the real problem.

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    • Eve Buckley

      Exactly. There are TWO public HS in Wilm. They just don’t admit most city children. Would be least costly for taxpayers if that problem could be solved, vs. establishing a new HS “specially” for poorer city kids.

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    • Publius e decere

      Actually, there is another HS building (PS) although it is not being used for HS today. It could return to HS service.

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  4. Warehouse CSW & Cab Calloway into Bank of America-the Mega Charter Schools. Restore back Wilmingon High Howard High and P.S. duPont as City Neighborhood Public Schools. Or, CSW can move to McKean.

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  5. In order for this to work, there must be a Wilmington District. End of story. It would consolidate transportation, administration, and building maintenance.

    The next step would be consolidating the other 4 districts into 2.
    2 less super’s and boards. RCCSD+ BSD and CSD + Colonial.

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    • Great Idea!

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    • Whenever people start creating a city district and moving schools around they never address the funding. You guys want to take a shot at this? That’s a serious question, btw.

      Also, why would BSD want anything to do with the other districts when BSD went out of its way to not implement the NSA, kept charters out of their buildings and not let choice run rampant? Go speak with BSD residents. They want nothing to do with RCCD and CSD.

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    • What’s that you say? Education dollars not enough? City wage tax not enough? Federal special needs funding not enough? City property taxes not enough? Gee where is all that money going? Serious question.

      Let’s try social services for the counseling, food, and crisis management instead of demanding it from district resident education property taxes. Secondly, if there is a higher concentration of need in the city, then the resources could be consolidated, classes could be better phased to address specific needs and the specific funding could be addressed by a state legislature rather than subsidizing it from the 4 upper NCC districts.

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    • Publius e decere

      Midnight Ryder has the solution. Not that the entrenched interests will mind it.

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    • MRyder and Publius, the tax base in the city isn’t enough. I would suggest both of you take a look it. Begin with tax exempt properties in the city. Among these properties you’ll find services that suburbanites use but don’t house in their communities. Fine. That’s the nature of a city, but let’s not pretend they don’t exist.

      Finances are always the main problem I have when it comes to a city school district. I can’t make the numbers work, but perhaps you guys can? So… if you want a serious discussion on a city school district you’ll need to provide actual financial numbers to convince me.

      I look forward to your replies.

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    • Publius e decere

      I’ll put it on my to-do list.

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    • Show your work. You guys claim a city school district is financially viable. I’m simply asking you to back up your claims with data.

      My guess is you guys will do what you always do. Disappear from this thread without answering the question and pop up in another thread with more platitudes.

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    • “MRyder and Publius, the tax base in the city isn’t enough.” – WHY NOT? You answer the questions. The city has more people, more wage taxes and more money generators than most other locales.

      Where is all the money going to that the city collects Pandora? Where are the city planners, city controllers, city economic development personnel, and all the other hired professionals? These paid employees are supposed to manage the city’s finances and yet they have no funding or time for the school system?
      And your platitude IS that everyone ELSE should pay for the education of the city’s children because the city doesn’t have enough money? They want everyone ELSE to Pay for laundry services, pay for food services, pay for crisis management services?

      I for one do not have your financial management skills, I’m just in a group you “doubt could be more uninformed, selfish and stupid” but there is a whole team in the city whose task is to financially run the city. What are they being paid for if they cannot manage the funding for their own children? Perhaps some other “critical” services aren’t so critical and the finances should be diverted to education.

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    • That’s quite a rant, but it doesn’t address the question. You guys are proposing a city school district (an entirely new expense), but can’t seem to produce the numbers to support your idea. Perhaps you should stop making plans you can’t back up with data.

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    • M Ryder:
      I believe the current school financing system for local funds is based on property taxes collected by the county. So the tax base in this case is the assessed property values. It seems your post is suggesting that a Wilmington School District be funded with other tax revenue (e.g., the wage tax). Two questions: (1) can a district for local funds claim tax revenue other than that assessed on property values for public schools and (2) presumably, these other tax revenues are being used for other purposes, so if these other tax revenues were somehow claimed by a Wilmington District, how would those other services be paid for or would you suggest they be eliminated?

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    • lastDEconservative

      ” … the tax base in the city isn’t enough.” Not, “in my opinion,” not, “the analysts/experts say,” just ” … the tax base in the city isn’t enough.” Period.

      “Finances are always the main problem I have when it comes to a city school district. I can’t make the numbers work, but perhaps you guys can?” “I” have. “I” can’t.

      Great theater. Alinsky smiles from below. Oh, and about those spreadsheets of yours that came out in the red (so to speak), I guess we all missed those while scrambling to fulfill your demand that we produce ours.

      M is right on. NO amount of money entered at the top left of any spreadsheet will yield a breakeven result at the lower right as long as the corrupt and their rent seeking accomplices rule the day in Williamston. They tremble at the prospect of having their bluff called.

      s/
      another PROUD member of the “uninformed, selfish and stupid”

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    • lastDEconservative

      ” … how would those other services be paid for … ”

      M, you’re gonna be up late tonight. May I bring you a nice hot cup of FourBucks around 9:30? Cream and sugar?

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    • Open, are you suggesting there are no taxable properties in Wilmington? What other services are burdening the city that take precedent over their own children? Would these be services that other DE residents aren’t using to the same degree? Underfunded/ subsidized public transportation services? City government? Housing authority? Child protective services? Seriously, what is the city spending all its revenue on and what is it providing that creates a more prosperous city?

      LDE Irish coffee at 9:30 would be sublime. Along with Hillary’s personal email server.

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    • lastDEconservative

      See you in 12 minutes. Coffee from FourBucks, some top shelf Irish whisky from my personal stash. Proud to be of service.

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    • lastDEconservative

      Sorry I can’t help you with all your assignments from the progressives/socialists. Too dumb. Although, I did pretty good with analyzing Kolwalk-Oz’s percentage comments the other day, huh?
      Whatever you do, don’t keep pandora waiting.

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    • You guys are the ones that keep proposing a city school district. I’m not assigning homework. I’m asking you to show me how the creation of an entirely new school district (complete with building/re-purposing schools) would be funded.

      Commenter openaccess’ detailed questions were answered with this statement: “Open, are you suggesting there are no taxable properties in Wilmington? What other services are burdening the city that take precedent over their own children? Would these be services that other DE residents aren’t using to the same degree?”

      First, openaccess never suggested there were no taxable properties in Wilmington, so MRyder’s response comes off as deflection – probably because his proposed city district funding formula didn’t take into account how school districts are actually funded. It seems MRyder thought that all city taxes go into one, big pot and should be spent as however the city sees fit. It doesn’t work like that.

      Second, the services the city offers are used by everyone, especially those in need. City based facilities like low income senior living, Limen House, Ministry of Caring, etc. do not only serve city residents. There are all sorts of people using these services. Not to mention that many of these sorts of services are housed in city neighborhoods – and city neighborhoods try to maintain a balance between these, usually, tax exempt properties and homeowners.

      Back to the point, I’m not the one proposing the creation of a city school district. It’s not my job to prove your point. So keep up the snark about how I’m assigning you homework, but know that most of us see your inability to answer basic questions about a proposal you put forth.

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    • lastDEconservative

      ” … most of us see your inability to answer basic questions about a proposal you put forth.”

      Rats! S/he caught us again! We really are that dumb.

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    • Thanks for proving my point! 🙂

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    • MR, isn’t policing a major cost to the city, or is that funded through county taxes? That seems like an essential public service that is, if anything, underfunded relative to Wilmington’s needs. Hard to look at Wilm. and find any hint of underused tax $ sitting in a pot somewhere, waiting to be directed to public services (schools or whatever). If you know of such an untapped or ill-used public funding stream avail to the city, pls disclose. Residents could use additional services of many kinds.

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    • Publius e decere

      I think the point here is that real property in the city has an assessed value and from that value school taxes are collected today. Those funds are sent to the district of record. If we were to declare a new district in the city, the funds go to that new district of record as would the students Those funds and students would stop going to the old district.

      A city building pays more than just school tax. It also pays a county tax, a city tax and in many cases a central business district tax. But the school tax is being spent on schools.

      The question is whether or not the city school taxes divided by the city student population is any different in $/student than it is in New Castle or Newark. Publius starts from the assumption that the ratio is equivalent. Pandora starts from the assumption that it isn’t.

      Oh well.

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    • lastDEconservative

      pandora starts from the assumption that NOTHING is equivalent. To anything. At any time. Ever.

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    • lastDEconservative

      One wonders if pandora and Eve wring each others hands in addition to their own. Just to break up the monotony.

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  6. lastDEconservative

    Has anyone ever seen Jacques and Kowalko in the same photo?

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    • Publius e decere

      You mean like one of those hair-swap side-by-side photos they did with Biden and Ryan? I think Jacques in Kowalko’s hair would be a riot. And Kowalko in Jacques’ hair would reveal Kowalko’s washed out status. Let’s see someone PhotoShop the Swap and then we can vote.

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  7. lastDEconservative

    Kilroy, are you gonna put Komrade Kwacko’s op-ed up so we can poke at, er, admire it or what?

    The genius, omniscient Kowalk-Oz. First he insults his voters by saying the latter state share of 53% is a “(reduction of 12%)” from the former share of 65%. Actually, he may have been amusing himself with the fact that those that vote for him wouldn’t know any better, and would even appreciate his providing the rudimentary calculation. Regardless, let’s stipulate that 65 – 53 = 12. So far so good. However, the reduction in the state’s share (as if it did not come by force from the people, but that’s for another comment), works out to 12/65 * 100 = 18.5%! What? Hmm, maybe HE doesn’t know any better, since the proper calculus would have better made his point. In fact, he should have said, in speaking of those good-for-nothing oddball elected folks in Dover he so despises from afar, that the restoration of the state’s share (as if it did not come by force from the people, but that’s for another comment) would require an increase of *gasp* 22.6% !! Hold on, all you TPS grads, in old school, that’s simply 12/53 * 100. QED.

    Maybe our resident CC expert, kav, could convert these to 14 step calculations for us, just for the fun of it.

    I can just hear Kowalk-Oz from behind the curtain saying, “I know this, you vile putz first Delaware convict, but the voters wouldn’t be able to understand it, so I said it in a way they … might.” Oh, wait, he did say that, in the headline.

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    • Publius e decere

      LDC,

      You are demonstrating Common Bore math, which anyone with a high-school degree brain should be able to follow. And I appreciate you demonstrating it — since so many of the players pulling the levers in Dover don’t know how to follow your thread nor can they repeat the math. In a normal world, their math deficit would disqualify them. In Dover, it buys them the street cred to sit at the table. Only in America.

      Kowalko may not know Jack, but he certainly doesn’t know math. Of course nothing he says “adds up” either.

      Publius

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    • Publius e decere

      Yes, John Kowalko, “a higher tax bracket for the wealthy or an uptick in corporate tax obligations” is absolutely “hypocritical and politically self-serving”.

      Finally, something we can agree on.

      I do think we should spend some money on math classes — “Mastering Percentages” comes to mind — and make the class compulsory for legislators who cite percentages as the basis for their votes and decisions purportedly on behalf of the public.

      One last observation before I move on to Proposals: “Cuts” made in 2008 were — well — a long time ago and look permanent to most of us. How many elections-ago was that for you? In fact, weren’t those reductions in spending a reversal of a previously “added new spending” program? If true, aren’t you really just assuming that any spending, once enacted, becomes permanent?

      It might be time to recognize the wisdom of the voters in your stomping ground. They gave a clear salute against the CSD proposal Your assumption that charter parents should have voted for bad spending because their schools would have gotten some of the fiat booty is a craven unspeakable disrespecl to the sensibilities of many charter- and tradition-school parents who want good schools and good public policy and felt (with their ballots) that the CSD proposal did not fill that goal.

      Now for the Proposals: You might consider giving your next stump speech in front of CSD’s crown jewel — the (empty) old Astro Power building which they bought a decade ago and have not (ever) used for school purposes. It sits (empty) as a testament to the lack of accountability to the public for prudent use of their tax monies. You could go there and look at your self in the glass-reflected exterior (no need for transparent glass to see the real story on the inside) and then turn to speak toward the (empty) parking lot. Please be sure the press is there with cameras rolling. The whole colossal dinosaur is a beautiful metaphor for EXACTLY why the voters turned their backs on the CSD proposal and its kind of thinking.

      Oh, and if the City of Wilmington ends up with its own district the CSD will have even more empty space throughout its buildings than it does today. Who will then hold the CSD accountable for shifting populations into some subset of these buildings and closing the others? You? If so, you haven’t given the public any indication that you would stand up for this efficient use of public assets. No time like the present to start. Demand that CSD sell the Astro Power building for whatever the market will bear. Now. They have had a decade to plan and wait for the “right time”. And they need the cash right now.

      To quote H&R Block: “Christina, get your millions back!”

      Publius

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  8. lastDEconservative

    “It’s time to resurrect Wilmington High School, the Red Devils,” Jaques said.”

    “resurrect.” “Devils.”

    What happened to the freedom from religion so forcefully defended by the capital S State?

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  9. You can get Red Devils gear online, Maybe kids in Hilltop can start writing Red Devils graffiti* on the Wilmington High School buliding. It’s walking distance, you know.

    *using only easily removable sidewalk chalk

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