Delaware’s Hottest New Blogger Exceptional Delaware bitch-slaps Delaware Charter Schools Network re: ACLU Complaint

Delaware Charter School Network’s Kendall Massett says ACLU Complaints are “Myths” by Exceptional Delaware

Kendall Massett, the director of the Delaware Charter Schools Network, has a lot to say about the ACLU complaint. A lot more than the DOE. In an article on WDDE, she gave a lot of comments to them about these charter school issues.

Delaware Charter Schools Network executive director Kendall Massett says many of the issues raised in the complaint have been heard before. “These complaints are not new to any state that has a charter school law. These allegations, myths – we actually call them myths – are actually talked about all over the United States,” said Massett.

Read entire post here ………………….. And don’t expect to see Publius commenting over there! He might have grit ! But doesn’t have balls 🙂

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61 responses to “Delaware’s Hottest New Blogger Exceptional Delaware bitch-slaps Delaware Charter Schools Network re: ACLU Complaint

  1. I would love Publius to come over for a crossover. The Flash and Arrow did it this week, so it’s a growing theme. Blogger honor and all that applies Publius!

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  2. Drag us all down… no one is allowed to succeed even when the option is open to all (just need to apply).

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    • Crab bucket Greg, in the house!

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    • Indeed… you are finally starting to come around.

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    • Why don’t you suggest to have the five mile radius extended to 10 miles then, so all can have an equal chance.

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    • Kevin,
      You don’t live in NCC and you honestly don’t know what you’re talking about when in comes to NCC schools. Your circumstance is your own. Your circumstance and difficulties with your son have clouded your judgement on what is fair and what is unfair.

      You do realize that a 5 mile radius is larger than most other CSD school’s feeder patterns save the H/S’s which are busing kids 10 miles down ROUTE 95. Do you realize that there are 3 CSD schools less than 3 miles apart on Route 40 alone? What does that make their feeder pattern? A little math for you, that gives them about 1.5 mile radius, give or take.

      Any chance you could use some logic to ask if it is reasonable or even possible to have the state pay for all these open enrollment options such as kilroy’s “choice” busing for Wilmington children? Buses to any school you want, because just allowing a choice isn’t enough, the state should also provide busing to every conceivable school in any part of NCC is a realistic option to “make things fair”. Seriously? You’re on board with funding all those transportation scenarios to make it “fair”?

      JY, unfortunately, defending a state system riddled with dysfunctions which flow from the Fed., through the Gov. & legislature, through DOE and coach, into county “Street”land, nonchalantly past the board and onto school administrators desks makes it a bit tough(pretty much impossible) to believe that the real problem are charters. There are an awful lot of layers there that just wreak of efficiency (sarcasm again) to justify the level of animosity thrown at people who choose a charter option. You may not like the crab analogy, but all the insults, attacks, defamation, accusations and irrational complaints lead only to one place.

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    • Publius e decere

      The Midnight Ryder rides again! Nice post. Of course I don’t believe these other people are playing by logical rules nor even by Marquess of Queensberry. You hit quite a few nails square on the head. But the other side is playing Whack A Mole so keep on swinging until the bell rings.

      Publius

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    • MRyder, no, I don’t live in Newcastle County, but what happens there tends to impact the whole state. The way the charters work in DE is insane. There is no consistency for choice throughout the state. Some get students from multiple school districts while others are confined to a certain radius. This is fact. The only way to put this issue to rest, in my opinion, is to confine charters to the school district they reside in. I have no problem making it open for ANY student in that school district. They are their own school district, so any student residing within should be given the choice to go to that school. The bus mess up there is insane, and since I don’t live in that mess, I don’t feel I know enough first-hand to comment on it. I understand that forces a lot of decisions with parents up there, and something needs to be done about it. I do know taxpayers in this state are paying $66 million a year for the Smarter Balanced Assessment just in revenue to the consortium that runs it. Get rid of wasteful spending like that, as well as the inflated salaries of members of the DOE and other places, and the funding can be made to solve the bus problems.

      I don’t agree with you on circumstances surrounding my son clouding my judgment. Yes, it did force me to take a look at the big picture in Delaware, and the more I found the more I questioned. To say it doesn’t give me the right to say what I feel is fair and unfair is ludicrous. Every single human being is based on circumstances in their lives, and they are what shape us into who we are, for better or worse. I believe in equity for all, no matter the color, financial status, or needs. And those who are the most downtrodden in this country are, unfortunately, the victims of the system. I don’t hate charters, I hate the movement behind them and what they are about. I have been very active in supporting Gateway Lab School with their current crisis. But I can’t, and won’t, sit back and say nothing about the enrollment preferences many charters have because it does not benefit all.

      I do agree with you on how everything gets lost with so many agencies filtering information down. No doubt about that. But it seems like on here, especially with CSD and NCS, most are either on one side or the other. I have never said NCS is a bad school, nor have I ever disparaged parents for sending their students there. I just question their student populations based on a lottery system when simple probability would dictate different results.

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  3. Kevin, I am OK w/that. But why stop at 10? Someone in this group will continue to complain about racism, segregation, etc… no matter what! No one in NCS worries about race… we are a group of families who want the best for their kids and won the legal lottery. We don’t see race and economic status… you do.

    Question… do you think NCS is the problem with CSD? Do you think the kids/families at NCS would make CSD rise from the dumps of districts in the state of DE? I don’t… CSD has been on this path for years… long before NCS was around.

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    • Publius e decere

      CSD is shoulder deep in problems and they are standing on tippy toes to avoid total submersion. Going to referendum now. Wow. Why not first sell that oversized empty commercial glass-front TajMajal they have owned for more than a decade. That ought to cover their vig for at least a couple of years. Why make taxpayers keep paying and paying for that bad decision? Sell it, recognize the loss/gain and come clean?

      Publius

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  4. No one in NCS worries about race… we are a group of families who want the best for their kids and won the legal lottery. We don’t see race and economic status… you do.

    You tell ’em crab bucket guy!

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  5. John, why the sarcasm? NCS is now damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The complaints about NCS focused around breakfast, lunch, uniforms, outreach. Those issues have been addressed. You guys are now sabotaging the outreach by mocking. You will look at the numbers and say the outreach isn’t working and the low income/minority numbers are low but do you take partial blame for that? Do you tell low income families about NCS as an option when they are in the preschool program? Anything?
    Kevin, so who sets a radius? you? Doesn’t a 5 mile radius make it a neighborhood school? I don’t know much about that though, and couldn’t care less if it was a 20 mile radius.. there are so many students who apply already, kind of shows that there is interest from the parents.. open it up to the whole county, it would be interesting to see how many people do want their kids there, eh?

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    • Because John is an idiot and reading the material handed to him from the DSEA. John is a failing board member in a failing district but rather then try to make his own sh!t not stink he has decided to fight back against other schools doing well.

      NCS is so bad ass we should open the radius up to the entire east coast!! I am sure John and others would still cry about it.

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    • Greg, as I said on my own blog, if NCS and CWS will just open up their books and reveal all application demographics to the public, then you can spout your diatribes. In the meantime, remember who is in the hotseat right now and who isn’t. You can defend NCS all you want, but that decision is not in your hands right now. It’s with the OCR and the US DOE. You reap what you sow.

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    • Kevin, what does that mean? Do you think low income families are applying and then being kept out of the lottery? If that’s not what you mean, then what?

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    • “NCS is so bad ass we should open the radius up to the entire east coast!! I am sure John and others would still cry about it” – 😀 😀 hopefully the buses won’t have to pick them up

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    • Kevin, how does NCS ‘select proficient students’ as you wrote on your blog?? Just wondering because when my kid started there, he was 1 1/2 years behind in reading.. thankfully the teachers and specialists at NCS were not only able to realize it (and I knew he had a problem but kept being told at his previous school that he was fine) but the were also able to get him up to grade level.

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    • lastDEconservative

      Pmom makes my day yet again!!

      Hope the buses won’t have to pick them up (from homes up and down the entire east coast – kudos to John, too for that one). An elegant, witty petard upon which the chronic complainers are momentarily hoisted.

      Then, with a rapier to one of the balloons full of hot air about NCS via her son’s’ story! Priceless.

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    • All of you NCS and CSW defenders need to stop deflecting from the issues at hand and start showing proof these schools don’t skim from the top and leave others behind. And unless you are in admin or on the board at one of these schools, your comments mean nothing because you just don’t know.

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    • “All of you NCS and CSW defenders need to stop deflecting from the issues at hand and start showing proof these schools don’t skim from the top and leave others behind. And unless you are in admin or on the board at one of these schools, your comments mean nothing because you just don’t know.”
      – only if you prove that they do. Which board are you on?

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    • and if they suck so bad, then why would you refer to it as ‘leave others behind’. Behind what?

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    • Thank you last Del.

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    • I’m on the board of public school district parents sick of all you charter loving folks acting like your shit doesn’t stink when the stench of it is all over the state. Seriously, all I hear you do is bitch and moan about how bad all the public school districts are when your charter schools are taking funding and resources from them like a thousand leeches sucking it’s host dry. Your top charters have just been accused of discriminatory practices and helping to cause segregation. It’s the 21st century, wake the hell up. No school is a success if it causes others to hurt in area schools. What does “badass” even mean if you can’t defend yourselves against the obvious?

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    • Or I can put this in simpler terms: Attorneys with more knowledge about the laws of segregation and discrimination have labeled your precious schools as instigators of these very practices. And they have filed federal complaints. Which means the burden of proof is now on the state and Red Clay to prove they do not. Provide the proof or hush up Pencadermom. I wouldn’t want to go near a school that practices in anything like this, no matter how “badass” they may be. “My son goes to a great school that’s just had federal complaints of segregation and discrimination.” Be proud, be very proud…

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    • Did you seriously just tell me to hush up?

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    • I’m sorry, would “Please hush up” work better? 😉 But seriously, before we start a civil war on here, I have my opinions and you have yours. You talk like you have proof of certain things whereas I know I have certain proof of things. I have shown the numbers straight from the DOE website on my blog numerous times. I have seen the manifestos from the top charter school philanthropists with their blueprint of exactly how they take over whole cities with charter schools. Just because your child was picked at the blessed school doesn’t mean we need to hear you cheerleading them all the time. When I say “left the others behind” don’t take that as I’m bashing them. These are people, just like any other people, who have been victimized by a corporate agenda that you obviously don’t care about or don’t know much about. And these billionaires LOVE you for it! You don’t ever hear me saying “Capital Schools kick Kent County charters ass in proficiency ratings” because it doesn’t matter. All that tells me is some schools are better at teaching to the damn test than others. It tells me nothing of a student’s ability or their future capability to learn. It labels kids, and puts those who don’t do well in the worst position available in society. So before you spout your “facts” accept the fact that there will be counter-arguments for everything you say on here.

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    • lastDEconservative

      Another famous Seinfeld moment occurred when Jerry responded to George’s frantic phone call for help with some immediate crisis or other with a sly and sardonic, “who is this?”

      Reading “You talk like you have proof of certain things whereas I know I have certain proof of things.” is not only horribly denigrating, it reminds me of the Seinfeld scene.

      I wonder, who is this? Is Kevin really pandora in drag?

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    • lastDEconservative

      Pmom, your skill at drawing out the “best” in the denizens is on full display this afternoon!! Like the gal in the killer pumps I saw at Wawa this afternoon, all intents are focused on you.

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    • “Just because your child was picked at the blessed school doesn’t mean we need to hear you cheerleading them all the time.” LOL, seriously you are cracking me up today. 🙂

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    • So since you have “proof of certain things”, where is your proof that NCS ‘selects proficient students’ as you wrote on your blog??

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    • The proof is in the numbers on the DOE website. I’ve been saying this for months, since my first article on my blog. I focus more on the special ed populations than the minorities, but my second article was all about CSW and all their percentages. Anyone with enough knowledge of the area can tell you what sort of student population you will get with a 5 mile radius. If NCS wants to get rid of this problem, open their charter up to the whole district. CSW is a different story. They don’t have the radius, so it will be much tougher for them to explain why they such a smaller African-American percentage, special needs population and why they have such a high Asian population (25.9% at CSW vs. 6.3% for all of Red Clay). Think about it this way, how many parents of these groups have looked at those numbers and said to themselves “They don’t want our kind there.” If I were a special needs parent, and my son with the proper accommodations can thrive, I would not apply him to CSW based on their current profile numbers. It’s all about perception, and the perception here is also grounded in solid data. I don’t need to provide proof of anything here. I’m not the one who had a complaint filed against them. I’m not under investigation. And lest we forget, all the charters had to provide applications for the last two years to the OCR based on another complaint. That complaint was filed in 2013, so it will be very interesting to see the demographics for the 2014-2015 year when the DOE releases them on the school profiles page. I know for special needs based on the 9/30 counts, many of them actually went down. They are still nowhere close to the state percentage.

      Saying I have proof of certain things does not mean I need to provide that proof, nor does it mean I’m saying I have proof of what you think I do.

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    • ” Think about it this way, how many parents of these groups have looked at those numbers and said to themselves “They don’t want our kind there.””- yeah, cause parents look at that when applying to schools.. NOT.
      So Kevin, why do you talk about CSW and NCS all the time. What are your thoughts on Kuumba Academy? You know they don’t want “my kind” there I guess. By the way, my kid was a minority at Pencader as a white kid. I never even knew there was a way to look at numbers and I never even tried. I couldn’t care less who was at the school. I heard from numerous people that it was a safe school and the kids I knew there were doing fine. That was enough for me. He would have gone to Conrad but we needed a bus and they didn’t send them to Newark.. whatever, we went with the choices we had and he lived to tell about it… hindsight, I would still send him there, given our limited choices.. hindsight, hindsight, I wouldn’t have raised my kids in Delaware.

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    • Wow… I missed all kinds of stuff and I should of just went to bed but here goes.

      Kevin, you seem to be a 1st class ahole hell bent on destroying the few bright spots of education in NCC. A few things you said…

      1) “who is in the hotseat right now”… who is in the hotseat right now? NCS? Is the ACLU trying to close down existing Charter schools and force us all to back to that sh!t hole CSD? I missed that part if so.

      2) I have no issues with opening up application demographics and comparing that to actual demographics. What do you think you will find? Some big conspiracy to keep certain demographics out? If so… why do you think that? Do you really think the NCS lottery is not open to all who apply? If so… why? Did you get rejected 1 too many times and want to stomp your feet now?

      3) Why does NCS and CSW need to prove they don’t skim from the top and leave others behind? Don’t you and that racist group called the ACLU need to prove that? How does NCS skim from the top? Do you think they are hand picking certain kids and leaving others out based on what? Pre-K SAT scores? I don’t know the % but I am sure it is over 80% of the kids at NCS start in K. How do you hand pick the best K students?

      4) Ok, I am not an admin at NCS or a board member so my comments don’t matter… but why do your comments or inaccurate facts matter?? You are on the board of pathetic people (I assume parents) who would rather spend time destroying quality education vs making CSD a better place to be and learn.

      5) Your bottom traditional public schools (CSD) have have been accused of failing to meet basic standards and are at risk of being shut down or taken over by a CHARTER school!! It’s the 21st century, wake the hell up. Your school is not a success if it can’t even meet the basic standards. NCS did not cause CSD to fail… CSD has been on the track of failure long before NCS came around. NCS probably would not be here if CSD didn’t suck so bad. Don’t you think your time is better spent righting that ship?

      6) The proof is easy… NCS has followed every letter of the law on the books and is open to all who wish to apply and provide a better education than CSD can provide. The only thing the demographics at NCS show are the % of families who win the lottery and sign up to attend 1 of the best schools in the state.

      7) I would not want my kids to attend a school/district that is always on the bottom of the list for the state. I would not want my kids to attend a school/district that is always at odds w/the DOE and at risk of losing control of schools or taken over from a CHARTER SCHOOL!! I would not want my kids to attend a school/district where families are not interested in what is best for their children.

      8) I am very proud of my kids attending NCS. I know that school is not based on segregation and keeping certain families out. I would not let my kids attend a school like this if that were true. I could give 2 sh!ts what you, the ACLU, Kowalko or the other few idiots on your side think about NCS. I know it is one of the best schools in the state and I am very proud to call that place home. I am happy to hear you are proud to call a failing school district home.

      9) I would not be on here cheerleading about my kids school if it wasn’t for aholes like you on here trying to destroy the few quality education opportunities in NCC. I don’t run around laughing and pointing fingers at CSD… I GRADUATED from CSD!! But when attacked… especially when my kids are involved… I will stand up and fight back!!

      10) The #s at DOE only show who has applied and accepted to NCS. You can’t force families to apply. If they don’t apply… they can’t possibly get accepted or benefit from one of the top schools in the state.

      If NCS isn’t badass… why are there 2K+ kids on the waiting list each year? Why are families doing everything they can to get out of CSD including paying for private school when they can’t afford it and moving to PA? Why is the state threatening to shut down certain traditional public schools and/or looking for Charters to take them over? Sounds like a great place to be if you ask me.

      Again… spend your time making the traditional public schools you love better vs fighting back against quality education opportunities and looking for anyway possible to force us all back to CSD. It won’t help CSD by stopping Charters!!

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    • Greg’s response:

      crab bucket, crab bucket, crab bucket, CSD is not one but all 19 districts, crab bucket, crab bucket, crab bucket, I got mine, screw yours, leave me alone.

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    • Publius e decere

      Greg: Yeah! Spot on and batting 1000
      Pencader Mom: Oh yeah! Killing ’em softly.
      Kevin O: Ruh-oh Shaggy! I think there is a success monster in the house. Ruff ruff! You might want to land the black helicopter before you run out of gas, instead of swirling over your targets in beer goggles.
      LDC: Best show online. Why would Delware need the gaming industry when we have this game to watch?

      Publius

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    • “Kevin, you seem to be a 1st class ahole hell bent on destroying the few bright spots of education in NCC.”

      I know if my argument is making someone that mad I must be hitting the right nerve. If I’m going to be an a-hole, I suppose I would rather be a 1st class one than a 2nd class one, so thank you for elevating my position.

      “who is in the hotseat right now? NCS? Is the ACLU trying to close down existing Charter schools and force us all to back to that sh!t hole CSD?”

      No, this is not the mission of the ACLU. It is to promote equity in all public schools. Meaning charter schools can’t pick and choose who they want, it has to be true choice, not determined by the school but by the actual applications and no restrictions from charters based on “radius” or assessments prior to determination (as is the case with CSW).

      “I have no issues with opening up application demographics and comparing that to actual demographics. What do you think you will find? Some big conspiracy to keep certain demographics out? If so… why do you think that? Do you really think the NCS lottery is not open to all who apply? If so… why? Did you get rejected 1 too many times and want to stomp your feet now?”

      This is the funniest one of all. If you read anything in depth I have written on here, or on my own blog, you would know I don’t even live in CSD or even NCC! I live in Kent, and my son goes to the Capital SD. My son went to a charter in Kent, didn’t work out, goes to public. In defense of Kent County charters, aside from a couple lower than average special needs populations, their demographics are very similar to their districts. Since you admitted later in your reply that you aren’t an admin at NCS, I’m glad you don’t have issues with opening up application demographics to the public. I hope the admins and board don’t either. I cannot wait to see them. Please make it happen!

      “Why does NCS and CSW need to prove they don’t skim from the top and leave others behind? Don’t you and that racist group called the ACLU need to prove that? How does NCS skim from the top? Do you think they are hand picking certain kids and leaving others out based on what? Pre-K SAT scores? I don’t know the % but I am sure it is over 80% of the kids at NCS start in K. How do you hand pick the best K students?”

      Because there is an ACLU complaint against the state and Red Clay alleging they do. How can an organization that promotes equity be considered racist? Hoping I don’t start bleeding from scratching my head too much on that one! “?

      “Ok, I am not an admin at NCS or a board member so my comments don’t matter… but why do your comments or inaccurate facts matter?? You are on the board of pathetic people (I assume parents) who would rather spend time destroying quality education vs making CSD a better place to be and learn.”

      Yes, with all respect, your comments do matter. The very fact that you feel that way because you aren’t an admin or a board member shows the brainwashing charters have inflicted on society. Far too many parents who go to charters feel like they are guests there and have to adhere to everything admin or the board says. Your voice does matter, just as mine does. Obviously we may not agree, but I would rather hear you than not. Otherwise how can anything be debated? Your assumption that I am out to destroy quality education vs making CSD a better place to be and learn is a hypocrisy in itself. I have offered several ideas for schools in my area of somewhat expertise with regards to special education. What suggestions have you gone to the CSD board with to make their district better? You live there, it’s your community. Make your voice heard, make a change!

      “Your bottom traditional public schools (CSD) have have been accused of failing to meet basic standards and are at risk of being shut down or taken over by a CHARTER school!! It’s the 21st century, wake the hell up. Your school is not a success if it can’t even meet the basic standards. NCS did not cause CSD to fail… CSD has been on the track of failure long before NCS came around. NCS probably would not be here if CSD didn’t suck so bad. Don’t you think your time is better spent righting that ship?”

      This one is very perplexing to me. The three priority schools have a much higher population of the three sub-groups NCS has been accused of not having enough of. Their DCAS scores are lower. The state has deemed DCAS as unable to properly assess the Common Core standards. The state has directed educators to teach this
      curriculum. So what does this tell me? The educators in this “failing district” have been teaching Common Core for over three years now, and if the test doesn’t align with those standards it’s no wonder the schools in CSD wouldn’t do as well on DCAS than NCS. That just tells me NCS educators were better at teaching to DCAS.

      “The proof is easy… NCS has followed every letter of the law on the books and is open to all who wish to apply and provide a better education than CSD can provide. The only thing the demographics at NCS show are the % of families who win the lottery and sign up to attend 1 of the best schools in the state.”

      Yes, you are absolutely right. It only shows the % of families who win the lottery. Greg, meet probability, probability, meet Greg. And you know they have followed every letter of the law how? Because they told you? Once again, one of the best schools in the state based on DCAS scores. Let me clear my throat!

      “I would not want my kids to attend a school/district that is always on the bottom of the list for the state. I would not want my kids to attend a school/district that is always at odds w/the DOE and at risk of losing control of schools or taken over from a CHARTER SCHOOL!! I would not want my kids to attend a school/district where families are not interested in what is best for their children.”

      Because the DOE is the epitome of perfection and they do nothing wrong. Yes, the state does want to turn the priority schools into charter schools. If you break down all of the subgroups and their DCAS score percentages, you will find other schools in the state who performed the same or worse in some areas on DCAS. So why these six schools? If you think it’s about their DCAS scores you have drank the Kool-Aid! It’s about location and real estate. You will know this soon if things go Markell’s way.

      “I am very proud of my kids attending NCS. I know that school is not based on segregation and keeping certain families out. I would not let my kids attend a school like this if that were true. I could give 2 sh!ts what you, the ACLU, Kowalko or the other few idiots on your side think about NCS. I know it is one of the best schools in the state and I am very proud to call that place home. I am happy to hear you are proud to call a failing school district home.”

      So does this mean if it comes out that NCS did practices segratory techniques with applications you will pull your kids out of NCS? I will hold you to that if/when that time comes. Once again, I don’t live in the district, and your best school in the state cheerleading is based on DCAS and what came before in terms of standardized testing. In terms of us “few idiots”, there are a lot more of us than you realize and that number is growing fast. And you will hear a lot more from us!

      “I would not be on here cheerleading about my kids school if it wasn’t for aholes like you on here trying to destroy the few quality education opportunities in NCC. I don’t run around laughing and pointing fingers at CSD… I GRADUATED from CSD!! But when attacked… especially when my kids are involved… I will stand up and fight back!!”

      To quote you, “force us back into that sh!thold CSD”, “would rather spend time trying to destroy quality education vs making CSD a better place to be and learn”, “your school is not a success if you can’t meet the basic standards”, “NCS did not cause CSD to fail”, nope, no finger pointing here! I think many of us who come on here are intelligent enough to be able to give advice to charters or publics and what can be done to improve education in Delaware. When that “quality” of education is equally held by all schools in Delaware, then we can have this conversation again. “The #s at DOE only show who has applied and accepted to NCS. You can’t force families to apply. If they don’t apply… they can’t possibly get accepted or benefit from one of the top schools in the state.”

      The numbers at DOE do not show who has applied. It would not shock me to see an outcome of this being a scenario where the DOE is required to show application demographics before any acceptance/lottery decisions. Then we will know more about who is truly applying.

      “If NCS isn’t badass… why are there 2K+ kids on the waiting list each year? Why are families doing everything they can to get out of CSD including paying for private school when they can’t afford it and moving to PA? Why is the state threatening to shut down certain traditional public schools and/or looking for Charters to take them over? Sounds like a great place to be if you ask me.”

      Because practices of certain charters in NCC have put the public school districts in a position where they are 1) forced to give funding to the charters, 2) if the allegations are correct then this would show the charters are skimming off the top and choosing more proficient students which puts the public school districts of having less funding to provide resources for a higher population of struggling students, 3) because the state has their own agenda, stop drinking the kool-aid Greg!

      “Again… spend your time making the traditional public schools you love better vs fighting back against quality education opportunities and looking for anyway possible to force us all back to CSD. It won’t help CSD by stopping Charters!!”

      I spend my time trying to make all schools better in Delaware. Part of that is exposing the corporate education reform that puts blinders on the vast majority of the population. I don’t want to stop charters. I want there to be a level playing field for all members of society with charters. Trust me, public school districts have their flaws and can do things better. But they can’t even broach those issues when they have to spend all their time fending off the state and the feds over Common Core, standardized testing, teacher evaluations, professional development, etc.

      As I told Pencadermom, I respect your ability to have freedom of speech, but please respect my own as well. For every argument there may be a counter-argument. That’s a part of what makes America what it is. Let me repeat, I do not want charters to end. I do not like things some of them do, and I believe laws need to be passed to force them to be more transparent with the public. Their behind-the-scenes actions are shrouded whereas public school districts are an open book in many cases. Sure, public school districts do things without public awareness, but charters do this more.

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    • Publius, you do crack me up. You are quite the comedian in front of an audience. I wish you would spend more time on here! I would love to hear more about your positions on enrollment preference. Publius is always right, hey, maybe that should be the title of my next article!

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    • “As I told Pencadermom, I respect your ability to have freedom of speech, but please respect my own as well.” – um, not really. You basically told me that I only think I know things but that you actually do.

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    • You are absolutely right Pencadermom, and that was very arrogant of me, for which I do apologize and for telling you to hush up. I got caught up in the moment, which doesn’t help my side of the argument. I’m not perfect, nor do I wish to give that vibe, which is something I personally need to work on. If you can accuse me of anything, it is being very passionate about what I believe.

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    • lastDEconservative

      “I’m not perfect, nor do I wish to give that vibe, which is something I personally need to work on.”

      Well, that means KO is not pandora in drag. I thought maybe he was a Jon Gruber wannabe, all ‘I’m smart you (all) are stupid’, now I’m wondering if he IS Gruber, writing under a nom de guerre !

      If the ghost of Alinsky was looking a little bored with the usual suspects here on Kilroy, it must be back in the spirits (so to speak) now with this nouveau destroyer out and proud.

      Note to the discerners: another poster whose comments you need not read in order to know what’s said. Just sayin’, we could all use a time saver or three here in the ______mas season.

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    • Ok, 2nd class Kevin… John Young and Kowalko may be the only 1st class aholes on here. 🙂 The nerve you are hitting is my children… nothing else. I will try to keep from the name calling going forward to only the Young and K show on here.

      Radius as I understand it is part of the law on the books. I can only speak from NCS and they do not hand pick the kids they want. You need to apply and be in the 5 mile radius… that to me is not hand picking.

      Sorry I don’t read your blog or know anything about you. I live in Newark and my kids go to NCS. I don’t think we would let our kids go to CSD so we would either be paying for a private school that we can’t afford or have to look into moving… again which we probably can’t afford.

      Based on my understanding the ACLU has filed a complaint against the State and Red Clay. A complaint that may or may not even require a response. And if there is a response it would probably be a LONG time before that happens. There is no need to even reply is there? Is there also a lawsuit??

      I went to 1 CSD Board meeting back during the NCS Expansion and heard John Young and Kowalko mumble through various inaccurate excuses for CSD and why NCS should not expand. I heard Jea Street basically rip the board a new one while calling them racists. I haven’t been back since. Between 3 kids, work and a life I barely have time to get a hair cut much less drive to Wilmington to listed to this failing board debate items. Sorry.

      “And you know they have followed every letter of the law how? Because they told you?” And you know they have not followed every letter of the lay how? Because DSEA, ACLU or some other group hell bent on destroying progress has told you so?

      So do you want to put it into law that Charter schools must reflect the demographics of the radius (whatever that is)? You want to force families to apply even if they don’t care or don’t want to attend that school? You want to force families out who do care and would like to attend based on demographics? Sounds like Affirmative Action (a form of discrimination) for schools to me.

      “So does this mean if it comes out that NCS did practices segratory techniques with applications you will pull your kids out of NCS? I will hold you to that if/when that time comes.” Yep, prove it!! You can’t because it does not exist… you are making this up. While your group of idiots who want to stop education progress are small but loud… the majority are on the other side. You have failed at each step along the way on your so called righteous path… that will continue.

      I wish we had the app demographics as well so we could prove you wrong. Prove to you that there is no conspiracy on who gets accepted and it is a true lottery. Until that happens you will continue to stick to your conspiracy theory and sling inaccurate statements. You can’t prove them right and I can’t prove them wrong.

      “Because practices of certain charters in NCC have put the public school districts in a position where they are 1) forced to give funding to the charters, 2) if the allegations are correct then this would show the charters are skimming off the top and choosing more proficient students which puts the public school districts of having less funding to provide resources for a higher population of struggling students, 3) because the state has their own agenda, stop drinking the kool-aid Greg!” Conspiracy theory… all of it. You have 0 proof of any of this. Stop believing Charter schools are out to do you harm!! They are not and you are making this up. All of this starts from the DSEA and their dues loving board members.

      I respect your freedom of speech… I don’t respect your attack on my children and their school or our choices. I don’t respect your claims of segregation, racism and other conspiracy theories when you have no real proof. I don’t respect the few idiots on your side and their viscous attacks based on inaccurate information at all. Sorry… and I never will.

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    • Kevin, a lot to read here so maybe I missed it, but did you answer the question of how NCS ‘selects proficient students’? Two things I wonder about, do you think the lottery isn’t real? Because you can go to the lottery and sit in the audience and watch, and a lot of people do just that. Also, how would they choose proficient students anyway, check on all 2000 applicants to see if the little guys know their numbers and letters yet or how does that work exactly? Also, your thoughts on Kummba Academy are?

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    • PM, please demonstrate evidence of sabotage by mocking. Or is that just another opinion without base? PM, your unwillingness to honestly account for the massive disparity between the demographics of the community your serve inside your 4 walls compared to out is what you have to live with, not me.

      I haven’t been railing about NCS on here. but facts are facts.

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    • Publius e decere

      But JY, what if NCS’ enrollment reflects the applicant pool?

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    • That’s a problem. It’s the problem that Sec. Lowery felt compelled to address.

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    • Publius e decere

      So the applicants are causing the “problem”?

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    • nope. The corporation seeking the applicants is morally obligated, due to the source of all of their income being taxpayer dollars, to work with great diligence and fidelity to make sure the applicant pool is reflective of the community it serves.

      Since we are all well acquainted with the statistical theorems that all but guarantee that random lotteries yield a pool reflective of the participants in the lottery, it is plainly evident that NCS has failed to ensure the applicant pool has met its moral obligation as expressed by Dr. Lowery’s order and direction in 2012.

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    • Publius e decere

      If the school’s lottery is random, then the outcome reflects the group of people who apply, with preference given to siblings and nearby residents and a handful of employees. I’m pretty sure the school does alot of marketing and is well-known, so what if the people who apply are in different proportions versus the general population? The school can’t very well give priority to certain groups other than the ones listed above. So what is it the school is supposed to do?

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    • nope. Schools directive is to make the applicant pool reflect the community. Again, because taxpayer monies. After that, the lottery works to its statistically certain result.

      It’s not about preferences at all l. It’s about access.

      The simplest solution: All eligible aged children in the 5 mile radius are entered into the lottery and the winners get letters asking them to opt-in to their new school. The would essentially guarantee the school would reflect the community because even as some parents would say no, the next offer would be to a lottery selected person. The percentages would hold, unless the letter asking for the opt-in somehow suggested barrier to admissions existed that should not be there, which I am sure would not be the case.

      I think Greg (the blog commenter, not Meece necessarily) would reject this plan because it would not confirm the “commitment” level of the parents. That would be sad because NCS is an excellent school and I cannot imagine why any taxpayer would want to deny a child access to such a fine school.

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    • I personally would have no problems with that at all John. Although I don’t know how much something like that would cost.
      What I wouldn’t want to see would be for the standards for discipline go down. I do believe every child has the right to an education, but I will forever feel that the right to be and feel safe in the place where a child spends most of their day, for most of the year, for 13 years, over-rides that right.
      The reason I thought of that was because I am thinking of a mom years ago who gave me some Pencader shirts for my son because her son left after freshman year. When I asked her why he was leaving, she said he thought there were too many rules and he didn’t like that. I would still want to see NCS be a school where they do have strict rules about bullying, dress code, having your cell phone out when you aren’t supposed to, disrupting class, etc. As much as you want to say CSD is better than it’s reputation makes it seem, you have to admit there is much room for improvement.

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    • Not that charter schools have no bullying happening, I agree with you Pencadermom that this is an issue facing schools in the public school districts. I could go into the many reasons why, but I agree that ALL schools should have the same strict discipline guidelines. With that is the caveat that ALL schools need to take a very close look at children with special needs and supporting the accommodations on their IEPs and 504s. Positive behavior support is a powerful tool when done correctly, and unfortunately a lot of schools miss the boat on this and do not follow those accommodations. They are there for a reason, and that is to help not only the student but also the teacher to help eliminate many behavior issues. I also think ALL schools need to educate their students better about disabilities. With understanding comes acceptance, and bullying would decrease dramatically if students with disabilities were understood.

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    • Pencadermom, you asked about my thoughts on Kuumba Academy. I think schools like that are segregation as well. I think they are a direct result of enrollment preference and how the feeder districts work in that crazy county you live in. We don’t see this in Kent County. I question some of the funding Kuumba gets. They had some financial issues last summer and presto: they get all this money from the charter school performance fund. I take issue with that kind of thing going on. And yes, many public school districts get bailed out at times, but the way the state presents it is misleading to the public with the charters.

      If parents didn’t read board minutes, they would have no clue about some of the things going on behind the scenes at a lot of charters. And even those minutes are vague and selective at best. Like Kilroy, I support digital recording of all board meetings. You never know, if parents had the chance to hear some of the board meetings at the charter schools mentioned in the ACLU complaint, perhaps some questions would have been answered. But the biggest resistance for HB23 which would have required that by law came from the charter schools. One has to question why they wouldn’t want to be open and transparent. While some on here don’t think anyone aside from a handful of people listen to these recordings, I can say many, many more listen to them. Parents, educators, and concerned members of the community. If charters don’t want the public to view them as secretive, they need to open up.

      And once again I apologize for my rant the other day. Lots of outside stuff going on, plus a lack of sleep and knee problems, and I was having a Midol moment.

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  6. Someone indicated the top-rated charters in Delaware do that last night at the enrollment preference task force meeting, and no one argued against it. It obviously isn’t every student, but enough to make a difference when scores are released on the stupid asinine tests all our children are subject to. And thanks for reading ED Pencadermom!

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    • lastDEconservative

      “Someone indicated the top-rated charters in Delaware do that last night at the enrollment preference task force meeting, and no one argued against it.”

      Oh, well, case closed. Did you also know that everything on the internet is true? Someone on the internet said so.

      Oh, and pay no attention to the smidgen of contradiction that the results of the stupid asinine tests all our kids take are used to make an argument that presumes the test scores are in fact indicative of ability …

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    • I definitely know that, but I also know these scores are being manipulated for the sole preference of deeming public schools as failures so they can become priority schools, and then charter schools, and eventually charter chains, all using personalized learning as sponsored by Rodel/Vision and 2Revolutions to decrease actual classroom instruction based on a teacher curriculum which leads to the grunts in TFA/Relay basically telling kids how to turn on a computer for lesser pay; meanwhile investors and hedge fund managers laugh all the way to the bank while our students become the same, special needs children get even more behind, and the top 1-5% of the wealthiest in the country whose kids all go to private schools end up running the country and the rest of the population become workers doing menial jobs. Or at least that’s my latest theory 😉

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    • lastDEconservative

      Sigh. Another one bites the dust. The leviathan has you exactly where it wants you, chasing individual particles in huge clouds of distractions. Bon chance, amigo. Don’t be surprised as the march to oblivion continues apace.

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    • I think right about now the Leviathan is wondering who the hell I am and why I am asking the questions I am and what to do about it. The Leviathan doesn’t scare me. I have the Leviathan right where I want it and I am perfectly content with both our positions at this current time.

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    • Publius e decere

      I’m pretty sure that neither Leviathan cares (pro- nor con-). You are just a ranting blogger, like the rest of us. In your case worse 🙂 or at least more ignorable. It only matters what you do outside of this house of mirrors. Hint: Acting with John Kowalko is like acting with inmates in the asylum. Try branching out. The rest of the legislature laughs at him as a simpleton. Don’t ride the rong horse.

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    • I respect Kowalko and what he stands for, but I have never actually spoken to him. And I have to apologize, I thought you and lastDEconservative were one and the same yesterday. The leviathan, in my opinion, is the entire corporate education reform movement. The multi-billionaires making mega bucks off schools and students. I just posted an article today how the Smarter Balanced Consortium is making $500 a student for their crappy test. That equates to over $66 million. That’s some curious coin. Like Kilroy, I don’t always like blogging, but the media in Delaware is so biased to the administration that somebody has to get the other news out that they won’t always cover. Yes, I rant, and add my opinion and sometimes get my facts wrong based on miscommunication or misinterpretation, but the general theme is the same. This “house of mirrors” as you put it does have impact whether you want to admit it or not. It may not be a huge impact, but every little bit counts.

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