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She’s at it again ! School Lunch mafia, coming for NCS……

 
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  1. Wow… I am back 100%… hilarious

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  2. DDS hates all children and top level education

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  3. And Greg is a vicious self important society hater. His kids, screw yours.

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  4. Wow, you go to a movie and all heck breaks loose. By the way DDC, can you point me to your blog entry complaining about how unfair it is that the kids of sparrow run go to a failing school instead of Leasure Elementary an exemplary school,which is just a little bit closer than Oberle Elementary. The bad news is that CSD is failing to educate those children, the good news is that you don’t have to worry about it as long as you can beat the crap out of NCS.

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  5. Of course they do, be nice if hey had diverse peers…..

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    • So the solution to Oberle’s problem is sending other kids there? By the way, before this goes any further, in case I haven’t mentioned it before, I don’t have any problem if NCS removes the geographic preference OR adds a cafeteria AND I think there should be an audit of lottery results for every school every year. I just didn’t think those things proved racism on behalf of the school or anyone associated with it.

      Good night all!

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  6. David,

    Good for you. Mr. Meece will NEVER Support your support for removing those two things. You see, here’s wCS is successful exclusively because of those things.

    He will never say it out loud, but that doesn’t make it not true. It’s the truest thing about NCS.

    I am indeed an agitator. I am here to provoke thought and make NCS supporters uncomfortable. I am doing a good job based on my blog hits and Kilroy’s threads….

    I am glad you are taking the positions you are taking. Ask yourself, why wont NCS adopt your enlightened position?

    Seek that truth.

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    • If Kilroy is right, NCS may have agreed to that already. We could debate their previous motivation, but you and I both know that argument is an endless circle. But I do have one further question: Does a parent who is fortunate enough to be above the low income level, who’s child goes to Leasure Elementary have a moral obligation to send their child to Oberle Elementary to be, what was the words you used-“a diverse peer”? Or should they just stay at Leasure Elementary, with a sort of “screw y’all I got mine attitude”. Or perhaps they have a third option-sending someone else’s kids to Oberle Elementary.

      No need to answer, if you don’t want to-it works just as well rhetorically.

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    • DDS, you don’t make me uncomfortable at all or any NCS parent on here it seems. You seem to be a CSD parent who didn’t win the lottery and is now jealous of the great program at NCS. I am fine with or without a cafeteria and I think they will end up having one by the way. I don’t believe the NCS board decided to not build a cafeteria to keep some kids out of the school. I am sure it was based on funding and they will resolve this. How do you know what Mr. Meece believes and/or won’t say? Do you have some sort of special powers to read minds?

      Stop fighting against a good educational program in the state of DE. We obviously need help in DE based on the current high school results. Take all of your negative energy and turn it into something positive by supporting CSD high schools.

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  7. “I am indeed an agitator. I am here to provoke thought and make NCS supporters uncomfortable. I am doing a good job based on my blog hits and Kilroy’s threads….”

    Yes, DDC, you are an agitator, not to me, but to many NCS parents. And you have provoked thought. At this point you’ve either won or lost your personal NCS crusade (you decide whether you won or lost, I don’t know exactly what you wanted-they are going to get an expansion, and will probably agree to some concessions, perhaps its a draw.) And I use the word personal, because although there are certainly other people fighting the expansion, you seem to be one of the few who insisted on direct, personal attacks on Greg Meece and the parents of NCS children.

    I don’t know why it’s personal to you-perhaps you applied to NCS and your kids didn’t get in, or you didn’t, and some NCS kid was mean to your children. Maybe you’ve even got an eigth grader in NCS now, and so you’ve got nothing else to lose.Maybe you don’t like Charter Schools on principle, or maybe you don’t like Greg Meece, or the board of NCS-heck maybe you don’t like me. But regardless, this isn’t about saving CSD for you, this is about destroying NCS.

    Because if it was about saving CSD, or even it’s high schools, you would be fighting to make every elementary school in CSD better. Now, I don’t expect you to take your kids out of Downes, or West Park, or whatever school they are in to send them to Oberle, or pull your kids out of Newark to send them to Glasgow, to allow them to be a positive role model to other children, as you or others are suggesting that Newark Charter parents be required to do for Newark. Because every one of us should think about our children first. But please don’t suggest that you are this shining light of reason and justice if you only shine that light on NCS like a laser beam and ignore the “Social Injustice” elsewhere in CSD, and in this state. And don’t suggest that everyone else is wrong to think of their kids before other kids.

    Well, Captain Ahab, you’ve chased your white whale to the ends of the Earth. And yet it still swims. So the question is, where do you sail from here?

    Doctor, heal thyself.

    Yes, yes, I know, “Greg Meece is evil, NCS is racist, Charter Parents hate all children except their own……[insert name here] is a jerk”.

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    • David,

      You are free to ignore my arguments as all are. You can reframe them too. But the cold hard truth is that we have a law that allows NCS to skim and cream. Mr. Meece executes it flawlessly, and there are victims.

      You can pretend there are no victims, you can change the subject to how I have offered “vicious” personal attacks instead of maybe I am just using hyperbole to make a point about social justice.

      Have all the tactical disagreements you want. NCS skirts the law and the effect of their school does have social impact. Just because you are a saint, this fact won’t change.

      I will continue to barb and point as long as the injustices visited upon us by a bad law executed by people who have a documented history of narrow tolerance for diversity

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    • Well said. And I will continue to defend against anything I perceive as bullying behavior with facts and by pointing out hypocrisy. And I can assure you that I am no saint.

      Lastly, for now anyway, Thank you, because you have inspired me. I haven’t been as involved as I should be in the education issues in Delaware,but I certainly will be better informed and more involved going forward. I owe that to you, Kilroy, and others.

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    • “maybe I am just using hyperbole to make a point about social justice.” And that is ok? Calling people you never met racist to make a point?You don’t see a problem with that? I love the idea of lunch at NCS, I love the idea of opening the radius. I love the idea of walking through Sparrow Run or anywhere you want, and hand out applications. I’ll help people fill them out. Just to make sure. Is that what would be fair in your opinion? (and in mine, I would say yes) If those things happened, you would then be supportive of the school? I am just curious. Also curious, what David said that made him sound like he thought he was a saint? You seem to read quite a lot into peoples sentences. The only thing I see that you could have translated that way was when he said he cares about his kids education first before that of others.. Was that it? Was that his ”saint like” comment? I am only guessing it was that one you might have a problem with because I have seen others on here bash parents for saying the same thing. I can’t help thinking that if every single parent cared and did everything they could all the time for their own child, how great of a school system we could have in our country. It is not the fault of a child born into a family that (to quote Kilroy) doesn’t give a rats ass about them. But it also isn’t the fault of parents like Dave, or me, or you. Most (if not all) of the NCS parents I have seen post on here are in favor of lunch and extending the radius.I thought those were the points you were talking about that were unfair. Why do you still namecall those same parents?

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    • Stop talking about it and MARCH into Greg Meece’s office and DEMNAD he make those equity based changes. Until then it’s just bluster and likely a lie/ploy to make those seeking social justice just shut up and Go AWAY.

      Greg’ been doing it for a flippin’ decade. I ain’t buying your “caring” until you do something about it.

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    • DDS, If NCS were to expand the radius to all of CSD and build the cafeteria in the current schools would you support NCS?

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    • DDC, you do know that Newark Charter has a board, and that Greg Meece isn’t on it right? That’s a decision for the board to make isn’t it?

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    • David,

      You do know that Meece has complete control over hios board right. Stop acting like a fool on here, or that we are fools…..either way you look bad,

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    • DDS, If NCS were to expand the radius to all of CSD and build the cafeteria in the current schools would you support NCS?

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    • only if the “lottery” yielded the same population ratios are CSD.

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    • Greg and Pencader,

      You see the problem here, every answer is another implication of NCS. DDC doesn’t like Newark Charter. As I said before, she’s not interested in social justice, she’s interested in bringing down NCS. She knows the sibling preference means that demographic changes at NCS will happen slowly (like they already are happening, just look at the lower vs. upper grades). So if the cafeteria went in by this fall, and the radius was expanded next year, and the results of the lottery were audited, she’d say that NCS didn’t work hard enough to recruit to the ratios in the district, or that they lost applications, or some other issue.

      And that’s all ok, she’s got as much right to want to close NCS as anyone else does to keep it open.

      DDC, you are obviously not stupid, and I don’t think that I am, but if I am, I guess I would be too stupid to know it.

      As for Greg Meece controlling everything, weren’t you the same person last week who said you couldn’t reveal your identity because you were afraid of Dr. Khan and the NCS charter board president? So which are they, evil or under the control of Greg Meece?

      DDC, you suggested earlier you use hyperbole to help your point. I hope the anger is overstated as well-no one should have to be as angry as you seem to be. Honestly, it hurts me to think anyone is that angry.

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    • I don’t think DDC is angry, David. Her rantings have the classic traits of a person whose cheese has slipped the rest of the way off of her cracker. Marbles have been misplaced. The deck is missing more than a few cards. The elevator skips a few floors. Whaddayagonnado? About all we can do is feel sorry for her.

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    • NewarkDad is a parody of himself.

      I am truth,.

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    • David, Generally while I don’t agree with your position on NCS I’ve generally found your argumentative points to be fair. However, I would have to say that, “She knows the sibling preference means that demographic changes at NCS will happen slowly (like they already are happening, just look at the lower vs. upper grades).” is not backed up with data on state website.
      Racial demographics for minority groups on a grade by grade basis will fluctuate but the recent class of Kindergarteners have low African American (AA) population. It is true that with minorities, there is going to be fluctuation in year by year percents due to low sampling numbers, but if anything the entire school data shows a strengthening of Asian relative to AA population. While this may indicate a slow decrease in White school numbers, it doesn’t do anything to indicate true diversity (as Asian enrollment numbers are at least 2x Newark and CSD schools numbers). In addition, this does bring the increase in low income numbers into questions; is it due to the condition of the economy? it is self-reported with no consequences, it is a factual number?

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    • Come on people ! What’s with the with racist stuff! The charter law itself is laced with discriminatory components! Meece has done a fine job at NCS. However, he is in over his head with the expansion. I’ll bet he didn’t think people in the community are tired of political agenda were in the case Meece may have been told application is a shoe-in and people would object to a CSN employee on the Newark planning board actually voting! That was a dumb selfish move, The vote would have still been yes but I guess it nothing more than putting NCS ass in the face of the naysayers. And that meeting with Alan Levin! How f’ing stupid! I remember when Red Clay rejected Odyssey’s charter modification request because the swing vote wasn’t there that might. George blurted out ” I thought Innovated” and abruptly stop as he looked at the super. Super was on Innovated Schools board at the time even as he was sitting Red Clay super. The done deal was flawed because the swing vote wasn’t present. There are but a handful that can see these agenda but sleepy town of Delaware is waking up! It’s time to address the laws governing charter schools and the Delaware DOE political puppet show!

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    • I would suggest to you, Kilroy, that one cannot have a conversation about the current state of education in the State of Delaware without it becoming racist. There are something like three.. four.. maybe five? school districts in Wilmington alone. My understanding is that they were drawn along the lines of race and income (please, if I am incorrect on this, someone please correct me). If I am correct, then the very nature of education in Wilmington is immediately suspect as racist. Personally I do not understand why Wilmington needs more than one school district. It baffles me.

      This may be an overly simplistic view of Things in General, but in my mind a lot of the education problem could be resolved with one or two more good public High Schools in Wilmington. These should be high schools with good student:teacher ratios (20:1 comes to mind) and strong sport, music, and extracurricular activities to give the kids a sense of pride and achievement.

      I would also suggest that the nature of internet discussions itself leads toward heightened rhetoric that causes racist elements. I am 100% positive that if everyone who comments on this blog were to identify themselves – and have the strength of their convictions to do so – then the heightened rhetoric would drop drastically: f-bombs would not be dropped, accusations of racism would not be so easily labelled, and the overall general discussion would probably become much more coffee-table like. As people are able to hide behind the curtain of anonymity, however, it remains easy for people to lob inflammatory remarks under a self-made claim of self-righteousness. Unfortunately, perfectly good and legitimate arguments get lost in the smokescreen of anger and resentment which each side of the argument seems to hold to the other.

      Would we allow our children to converse like this? Of course not. Would we speak to our children like this? I certainly hope not. Yes, I understand that we are all adults and should be open to critical argument, but critical argument and inflammatory, personal attacks are very different things.

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    • Thanks Victor for the input ! A Wilmington School District is debatable but I think for now we should take the four school districts that intersect in Wilmington. I don’t see how Red Clay’s busing of Wilmington middle and high school students to the suburbs provides neighborhood schools. Expansion of charter schools the herds high poverty minorities together like sheep isn’t circumventing the intent of desegregation. We needs a system that encourages an education system that welcomes and severs all as equals. The charter school laws create barriers to fair and equal education. Why can’t at-risk students attend Charter School of Wilmington? Why can’t all students living in CSD where Newark Charter is located to enjoy that experience. Yes there is only so much room but a 5 mile attendance radius? A public school with no cafeteria? What I see is a charter school law and even Choice school law that hinders equitable education a fester a racial divide. Deep in the original charter school movement were people who opposed desegregation some from a pure racial view and other opposed to force busing causing children to leave community public schools. But it seems fine with Red Clay to continue to bus students out of Wilmington to suburban Red Clay middle and high schools. Also, why should CSD Wilmington students be bused to Glasgow and Christina ?At least build high school closer to Wilmington.

      As far as the verbal battles on the blogs here and elsewhere, it brings out the fact that all is not well with society. If no one spoke up and just look the other way like many in Dover does children will continue to suffer. To say stop would suggest the reformist are right and our children just follow federal intrusion into their lives. Blogs are like soapboxes, the kitchen table and backrooms. Is you squeeze all the rhetoric together out might come some truth to the fact that Delaware education reform movement and education laws have flaws. Life may not be perfect no is government but when Wall Street wants to control our children’s education we need to stand.

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    • I agree with you wholeheartedly that spirited debate is key to a functioning society. You did, however, ask about all the racist remarks. I firmly believe that is an unfortunate side effect of anonymous debate. Remove the anonymity and I assure you the level of caustic, seemingly uncaring remarks will diminish. Otherwise, as is the case, we all need to take the good with the bad.

      The good, of course, is that we’re free to have the debate. We’re even free to leave it – no one is required to stay and continue to debate until they have carpal tunnel. Sometimes we do need to agree to disagree, but like you, I wish more people here could do it with civility.

      I shall now go clean my carpets. That’s a wonderfully mindless task for a Sunday afternoon.

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    • The time for a Wilmington non-charter public high school has probably come and past. I don’t know if you remember this, but it was seriously floated several years ago during the neighborhood schools debate. It was rejected, as is usual, because of money arguments. Not rehashing the whole debate, essentially the state and districts were not willing to allocate extra operating money (as compared to suburban schools) to the school, which city supporters wanted. This extra money cost would have been state support as it was outside of property taxes.
      Red Clay, in my opinion, are serving the wealthy suburban residents who don’t mind 6 years of public education because they know they can send their kids to private schools for 6-12, if they don’t get or want to attend Red clay’s segregated charter and magnet schools. So its cheaper and better for Red Clay to build suburban K-5 schools and bus city kids to secondary schools.

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    • Kilroy, you may be able to start advertising soon. Guessing you hit rates are through the roof. You said something on another post about stirring things up, or something like that? Mission accomplished. :)

      And thanks for letting us all into your “house” and mess things up a bit.

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    • David, I do stir the debate and conversations. Throw the meat out their and sharks will come! Every blog goes trough cycles as far as hits, About a week after the state boards approval of NCS expansion things will settle-down and by that time perhaps some secrets at Glasgow will leak out and we’ll be on a different topic!

      My mission has been progressing. Red Clay and Christina record their board meetings by choice. Took me two years of dogging Red Clay but they delivered. CSD stepped up a was the first to make it a board policy, The Delaware State Board of Education since last September has been recording their meetings thanks to Kilroy’s legislative request and overwhelming support. A few year age I was able to have the school board oath of office modified. I was helpful in getting some financial legislation through along with Greg Lavelle, Charlie Copeland and Dave Burris. Markell promised transparency by is slow to live up to his promise.I use to be a team-player parent until I caught them in lies and refuse to drink the kool-aid

      I uncovered a major violation in the education law and Sokola rushed to repeal it. Many species of legislation regarding education are technically illegal.
      Title 14, Chapter 2, Subchapter I, 207. Legislative educational impact statements. Repealed by 73 Del. Laws, c. 312, § 334, effective June 25, 2002.

      By sleep tight Kilroy is always on patrol :)

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  8. It’s time to address the laws governing charter schools and the Delaware DOE political puppet show. I add it time to address the laws governing our 19 school districts to include how our school boards are elected.

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    • Amen to that Jack.

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    • Now here’s a thought. Perhaps we ought to change the law that the only people who can serve on school boards are stay at home parents of children in the public system. Mother, father, or legal guardian would count, as long as you’re a stay at home parent.

      By definition that would mean each school board member could only serve one term due to them being employed as school board members by the time the next election rolls around. That would cut out at least some of the politics and ensure that the people on the board actually had an incentive to improve education; it would be their children directly who would be effected by their decisions.

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    • Victor, you do realize that being a stay-at-home parent is a luxury that most people can’t afford? Guess a single parent wouldn’t qualify for your school board – unless they were independently wealthy. Another group you’re ruling out is people who don’t have children yet pay school taxes. Some might say that since these people don’t have a horse in this race they would be more objective. (And no, I don’t buy this either.)

      And even if you fill your board with stay-at-home parents of children in the public school system, what assurances are there for making certain they wouldn’t still look out for the school there child attends? Sorry, but I think you’re incorrect when you infuse stay-at-home public school parents with a wisdom and sense of fairness different from the general population.

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    • Hi Pandora:

      Certainly there are issues with my suggestion. There are issues with any proposal, as we’ve seen. The system we have right now apparently isn’t working, so a change couldn’t hurt.

      Would a single parent have the time to serve on a school board which meets during the day? Perhaps the suggestion ought to be “stay at home parents or single parents who work”? Apparently the system we have right now isn’t working, so let’s come up with an idea for a better one. We need to start somewhere.

      You’re correct that people who would run for office could have their own agenda. Or they might be people who genuinely wish to help. Typically people run for office to try to make a difference. I know democracy isn’t perfect, but theoretically holding an election would allow the people who vote to choose the person they feel best represents them. Arguably that would alleviate the concern about officials serving to be self-serving. Maybe we don’t need a change at all.

      I’m interested in your idea of a sense of fairness from the general population. Could you explain?

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    • Victor, my point is that stay-at-home parents aren’t more or less fair, or have more or less wisdom, than the general population.

      And one of the biggest problems, imo, with school board elections is the ridiculously small voter turn-out due, in part, to the fact that candidates are able to run a campaign that doesn’t include reaching out to all voters. If we’re interested in changing the dynamics of the school boards we should probably discuss moving these elections to the date of the general.

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    • I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of moving the election date. You’re absolutely correct that there are poor voter turnouts. The simple truth is, the more local the election, the less the turnout.

      My point behind my idea of allowing only stay at home parents to run was to ensure that those on the board ‘have some skin in the game,’ so to speak, and that they would be more in touch with what the children need. I’ll agree with you though that it is probably far too reaching a generalisation to make. Unfortunately the CSD has had so many issues the last decade (dating back to fraud and embezzlement) that, personally, I’m very bitter toward it and would love to see sweeping changes.

      I bought my house specifically so my children could go to Downes and voted in the referendum to increase property taxes so Downes could get air conditioning. It took 10 years for that to happen. Granted, there were legal issues (embezzlement) but the entire issue seemed poorly handled to me.

      I understand the new CSD superindendant is very energetic and has some great ideas. Hopefully this will make for some positive changes.

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  9. Victor, great point about civility. If I saw my kids posting with the language that gets bantied about, they might never get on the internet again.

    And the way we are treating each other? I really wish there could be a little more mutual respect.

    I also know that the news journal changed the way comments were written, giving less anonimity for the same reason (although I do know that many people here are not news journal fans, so I’m not sure how this will go over.

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